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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find a formula for 1) the area of the figure 2) the perimeter of the figure And then find the dimensions of x and y that maximize the area given that the perimeter is 200. write solutions in increasing order of x and enter the EXACT answers x=____ ; y= _______ and x=_____; y=______ @ganeshie8 ? :) **different figure this time :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

figure :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

start by writing out expressions for Area and Perimeter

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Area = ? Perimeter = ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm area= 4 semi circles + 1 rectangle? haha not sure :/ this one confuses me :/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, if u look at it carefully, its just "one rectangle" and "two full circles".

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

think of the top and bottom semicircles as broken pieces of same circle..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

similarly, left and right semicircles also form one full circle.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhh didn't see it!! haha :P so 2πr^2 * L * W ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

try to setup the expression for Area and Perimeter

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Nooo... the radius is not same for all the circles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh then i don't know :(

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the radius is same for top/bottom semicircles the radius is same for left/right semicircles

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Area of entire figure = ( rectangle) + (top and bottom semi circles) + (left and right semi circles)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay:) so how would that look? :/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Area of entire figure = \(\large (xy) + (\pi [\frac{x}{2}]^2) + (\pi [\frac{y}{2}]^2) \)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplifying gives u : Area of entire figure = \(\large xy + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{\pi y^2}{4}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

see if that looks okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i think so :) because the two circles are different right? so what about perimeter? :/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

see if u can find out

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

il give a hint : two circles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so would it be like this? 2πx + 2πy ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

almost right, whats the radius of each circle ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Is it x or x/2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh so 2πx 2πy ----- + ------- 2 2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so hard

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes ! that gives : Perimeter = \(\large \pi x + \pi y\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay yay!! :) so how do we do that last part? 200=πx + πy ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes ! solve y and plug that value in Area expression

OpenStudy (anonymous):

200-πx=πy y= 200-πx ------------- π ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, plug that value in Area expression

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so x(200-πx/π) + (πx^2/4) + (π(200-πx/π)^2/4) ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large A = xy + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{\pi y^2}{4}\) \(\large A = x\frac{200 - \pi x}{\pi} + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{\pi (200-\pi x)}{\pi^2 4}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, simplify it

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and maximize

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 200x-πx^2 πx^2 200π-π^2x ---------- + ------- + ------------- π 4 π^2 4 ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large A = xy + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{\pi y^2}{4}\) \(\large A = x\frac{200 - \pi x}{\pi} + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{\pi (200-\pi x)}{\pi^2 4}\) \(\large A = \frac{200x }{\pi} - x^2 + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{50}{\pi } - \frac{x}{4}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

^^

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Maximize !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh not sure how to do this part :( derivative then set to 0 right? :/ not sure what the derivative is though :(

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, pi is just a constant. dont get scared... dive in and find out the derivative of A

OpenStudy (anonymous):

200 - 2x + 2πx - 1 ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we made a mistake

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh no!! :(

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Corrected below : \(\large A = xy + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{\pi y^2}{4}\) \(\large A = x\frac{200 - \pi x}{\pi} + \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{\pi (200-\pi x)^{\color{red}{2}}}{\pi^2 4}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplifying that gives : \(\large A = \frac{200 x}{\pi} - x^2+ \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{ (200-\pi x)^{\color{red}{2}}}{ 4\pi}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Maximize this^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 200x - 2x + 2πx + 400-2πx ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

nope

OpenStudy (anonymous):

aww :(

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large A = \frac{200 x}{\pi} - x^2+ \frac{\pi x^2}{4} + \frac{ (200-\pi x)^{\color{red}{2}}}{ 4\pi}\) \(\large A' = \frac{200 }{\pi} - 2x + \frac{\pi x}{2} + \frac{ 2(200-\pi x)(-\pi)}{ 4\pi}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

set it equal to 0 and sovle x,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh okay, yes i got that:) thank you!!! :D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

new problem:)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large A = \pi r^2 + 2\pi r h\) \(\large V = \pi r^2 h = 44\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

solve \(h\) from second equation and plugit in Area expression

OpenStudy (anonymous):

h= 44/pi r^2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A = pi r ^2 + 2 pi r (44/pi r^2 ) = πr^2 + 88 ---- r ??

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yup! \(\large A = \pi r^2 + 2\pi r \frac{44}{\pi r^2}\) \(\large A = \pi r^2 + \frac{88}{r}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Minimize this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2πr - (88/r^2) = 0 r= cube root 44/π ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Excellent !!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yay! so for h, we plug that into which equation ? V =.... ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

find out \(h\) also : \(\large \pi r^2 h = 44\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes^^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

h= 44/πr^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, plugin r value and simplify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not sure how to simplify h ;/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\large h = \frac{44}{\pi r^2} \) \(\large h = \frac{44}{\pi \left([\frac{44}{\pi}]^{\frac{1}{3}}\right)^2} \) \(\large h = \frac{44}{\pi \left(\frac{44}{\pi}\right)^{\frac{2}{3}}} \) \(\large h = \left(\frac{44}{\pi}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}} \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh okay thank you!! :D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

which is same as \(r\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

So, the dimensions that minimize the surface area are : \(\large r = h = \left(\frac{44}{\pi}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}} \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh okay, thanks!!!! :D

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u wlc :)

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