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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the values of x that give critical points of y=ax^2 + bx + c, where a,b,c are constants. Under what conditions on a,b,c is the critical value a maximum? A minimum? x=__________ The critical value is a ***min/max(??)**** if a<0 and a ****min/max(??)**** if a>0. thank you! :D

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

critical value is the value of x that would make the derivative zero. You probably already learned this some time ago, even if you didn't know that it WAS the critical value. Anyway, differentiate the function :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

like this? y ' = 2ax + b + 0 ? :/

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yup. Now set y' = 0 and solve for x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2ax + b =0 2ax = -b \[x=-\frac{ b }{ 2a }\] ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yup. Look familiar? :D Vertex formula of a parabola ^_^ Remember, the x-value of the vertex takes THAT exact value... right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh i see:) yes:) so that's the x value for my problem?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and would it be like this then? The critical value is a ***min**** if a<0 and a ****max**** if a>0. ^^not too sure about this part :/

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's a value (and from the looks of it, THE ONLY value) that would make the derivative equal to zero.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okie:)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And hold on. Minima and maxima depend on the second derivative. Find y''

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay:) so y '' = 2a + 0 ?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, good. Now, as you can see, the second derivative is constant... For a critical value to be a minimum, the second derivative has to be POSITIVE. So, if a > 0, then the critical value would be... what?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, stuck? Hint: y'' = 2a If a is positive, then what is 2a?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ermm positive?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2(5) = 10 2(100)=200 so pos?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Yup. That means the second derivative y'' is positive. Which makes the critical value... a min or a max? Look back :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a max?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or sorry a min when a>0 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and a max the other way?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

There you go :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Does it not make sense? When a > 0 then your parabola opens up, means it gets bigger and bigger; there CAN'T be a maximum, so your critical value must be a min. When a< 0 your parabola opens down, means it gets smaller and smaller, and there can't be a minimum, so your critical value must be a max.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes:) hehe yayy!! thank you!! :D

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