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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

r=_______ ?? thanks!!

OpenStudy (phi):

what have you tried ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think you need to find the derivative right? but i'm unsure because there's the r^3 ' at the denominator on the second term and that's throwing me off :/

OpenStudy (phi):

Yes, finding a critical point of a function means find the derivative and set equal to zero. I would write the equation as \[ f(x) = -A r^{-2} + B r^{-3} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh okay but what about that ' symbol after r^3 ? :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does that affect the function? :/

OpenStudy (phi):

that is a comma, used to separate the equation from the rest of the sentence. Commas are often a helpful grammatical device :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay haha :P that makes sense now lol :P so the derivative would be \[f'(x)=\frac{ 2ar-3b }{ r ^{4} }\] ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the comma totally threw me off... haha i thought it was asking for some odd derivative rule that i hadn't heard about before lol :P oops!!

OpenStudy (phi):

It helps if you ever read (or better, write) papers with equations. Then you notice the punctuation marks. I assume you can finish this ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh okay i'll have to google papers with equations haha :P umm like this? 2ar-3b ------ = 0 r^4 multiply both sides by r^4 you get 2ar-3b = 0 +3b +3b -------------------- 2ar=3b divide by 2a ? r= 3b ---- 2a ?? is that right? :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that the value that minimizes? or is that the max? :/

OpenStudy (phi):

that is what I got

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay:) so is that the answer? when r>0, 3b/2a is the value that minimizes the force between the atoms? :O

OpenStudy (phi):

to test if it's a max or min I often try a few numbers. Let A=B = 1 (keep it simple!) then try r below 3/2, at 3/2 and above 3/2 it should be clear if we have a max or a min.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, how do i do that? :/ i'm a bit confused by how to test :/

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ f(x) = -1/r^2 + 1/r^3 \] the min (?) occurs at r= 3A/2B= 3/2 we get -4/9 + 8/27 = -4/27

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay:) so that's for the min:) so the min=3/2 or would it still be 3A/2B for my problem?

OpenStudy (phi):

on the other hand, at r=1 (which is below r=3/2 = 1.5) we get -1 + 1 =0 (bigger!) and at r= 2 we get -¼ + ⅛ = -⅛ = -0.125 > -4/27 (-0.148...)

OpenStudy (phi):

so r=3/2 is a minimum

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh okay:) awesome!! thank you!!! :D

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