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OpenStudy (sburchette):

Abstract Algebra problem

OpenStudy (sburchette):

I concluded that r and t must be even, otherwise multiplying an element of S with any element of R does not necessarily produce another element in S. Does that solution sound reasonable?

OpenStudy (sburchette):

The problem is attached as a picture.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For some reason, when I saw the word 'algebra', I thought it'd be something fun and simple, like x and y, ya know :D

OpenStudy (sburchette):

The title "abstract algebra" is pretty misleading. I think most people assume we are just working more with algebra from high school when we say we are taking abstract algebra. It's quite a different world.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

<snaps fingers> yes yes yes abstract algebra is even MORE fun ^.^ Now, S is an ideal, for any element X in R and Y in S, we can be sure XY is an element of S, right? ^.^

OpenStudy (sburchette):

As well as YX, according to how our text defines ideals.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, let's see where that takes us (I still don't know. I accidentally ignored your first post on purpose, so that I have no preconceptions) s is even, so I might as well let s = 2k, for some integer k, for whatever good it does me. We have \[\Large \left[\begin{matrix}a & b \\ 0 & d\end{matrix}\right]\left[\begin{matrix}r & 2k \\ 0 & t\end{matrix}\right]\in S\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\Large \left[\begin{matrix} ar & 2ak+tb \\ 0 & td\end{matrix}\right]\in S\]\

OpenStudy (anonymous):

means tb has to be even, regardless of b. Okay, so t has to be even too, I suppose, otherwise, it won't work if b were odd :/

OpenStudy (sburchette):

Right. And when I multiplied in the reverse order, I got rb + sd as the entry in row 1 column 2. sd is even regardless of b, but r must be even to ensure that the entire entry is always even and thus an element of S. Right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Makes sense. And that was your first post. So... what did you need help with again? :D

OpenStudy (sburchette):

When I posted the first time, I second-guessed my solution and decided to work through the problem again to make sure I didn't miss anything. The solution seemed to little simple, so I was skeptical. I tend to be skeptical of solutions that seem too easy. Anyways, thanks for your help. I like to get second opinions on problems in this class.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yay abstract algebra :3 Well, not really I'm so confused. Hi ^.^

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