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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Limit problem-http: //i.imgur.com/LVkiesQ.png Help.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

o.O? can you type it here please?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lim x->0 [sqrt(ax+b)-1]/x=1 Find the value of a and b.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

\[lim_ {x\rightarrow 0} \frac {(ax+b)^{1/2}-1}{x}=1\] Correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry it will be lim x->0 [sqrt(ax+b)-2]/x=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just 2 in place of 1.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

\[lim_ {x\rightarrow 0} \frac {(ax+b)^{1/2}-2}{x}=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Absolutely.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

k so, let's get rid of that square root somehow

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

any ideas?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

or, put everything in a square root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I cannot solve it by L'Hospital.Is there is any other way.....

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

no, it's undef 2/0 so correct no l'hops

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

so we need to mess with it algabraicly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes,but the problem is the x in the denominator.....

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

why is that a problem?

OpenStudy (aravindg):

Here is a smart approach: Do you know the binomial expansion?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

^^Yes that would be a nice approach, but I'm gonna try and do it without just in case they don't know it :) ^ We are given the limit. \[lim_ {x\rightarrow 0} \frac {(ax+b)^{1/2}-2}{x}=1\] right? so now, given that it =1 we know, that it must simplify to______.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It must simplify to 1.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

right, so that means through some sort of manipulation, we can make it x/x or something else equivalent to 1

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

So, let's think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

could a substitution or multiplying by the conjugate help us?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes,i did it but what about the x in the denominator.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

That doesn't matter exactly just hold on

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

which did you try?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@AravindG yes i know bino.....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@FibonacciChick666 i tried it many times, but cannot do.....

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

no i mean which did you try, substitution or conjugate?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

conjugate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The numerator is coming (ax+b-4).

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok, so how about this, what if you wanter to use l'hops, what would b have to be?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

and try this sub \(u=(ax+b)^2\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Where to substitute this.....

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Where would it be useful?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But there is no (ax+b)^2,there is only (ax+b)^1/2.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

(u^2)^1/2 ring a bell?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I coulnot understand u.....

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

\[(u^2)^{1/2}\]... think about it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a,b constant?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

find values of a, b @mustafa2014

OpenStudy (anonymous):

aha :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, a and b is constant.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

did you figure out what I mean for the substitution yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If i try u=(ax+b)^1/2

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

you could try that too, but I just don't like having square roots

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

sorry, was II dyslexic? h/o no wonder you're confused

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

use u^2=ax+b

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I'm sorry, about that

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

just remember to fix your limit and replace the x correctly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The problem is that there is no (ax+b),but there is (ax+b)^1/2

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

that isn't a problem...

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

You just put it in

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try u=x+1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

start by simplifying the expression ((ax+b)^(1/2)-2)/x=1 (ax+b)^1/2-2=x (ax+b)^1/2=2+x ax+b=(2+x)^2 ax+b=4+4x+x^2 x^2+(4-a)x+(4-b)=0 now that it is a quadratic in x, consider the limit. as x->0, we have 4-b=0, thus b=4 plugging in b=4: x^2+(4-a)x=0 x+(4-a)=0 as x->0, we have 4-a=0, thus a=4 thus a=4 and b=4

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok(this is against my principles,but im tired), you get this limit: \[lim_{u\rightarrow b} \frac{u-2}{\frac{u^2-b}{a}}=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes,i got this just a minute before.....

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

then just solve

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

just listen to @eashy and be done with this, their method is a lot more simple than what I am thinking of

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