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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I cannot solve it by L'Hospital.Is there is any other way.....
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
no, it's undef 2/0 so correct no l'hops
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
so we need to mess with it algabraicly
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes,but the problem is the x in the denominator.....
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
why is that a problem?
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OpenStudy (aravindg):
Here is a smart approach: Do you know the binomial expansion?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
^^Yes that would be a nice approach, but I'm gonna try and do it without just in case they don't know it :) ^
We are given the limit. \[lim_ {x\rightarrow 0} \frac {(ax+b)^{1/2}-2}{x}=1\] right? so now, given that it =1 we know, that it must simplify to______.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
It must simplify to 1.
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
right, so that means through some sort of manipulation, we can make it x/x or something else equivalent to 1
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
So, let's think
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
could a substitution or multiplying by the conjugate help us?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes,i did it but what about the x in the denominator.
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
That doesn't matter exactly just hold on
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
which did you try?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@AravindG yes i know bino.....
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@FibonacciChick666 i tried it many times, but cannot do.....
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
no i mean which did you try, substitution or conjugate?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
conjugate
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The numerator is coming (ax+b-4).
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok, so how about this, what if you wanter to use l'hops, what would b have to be?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
and try this sub \(u=(ax+b)^2\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Where to substitute this.....
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
Where would it be useful?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
But there is no (ax+b)^2,there is only (ax+b)^1/2.
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
(u^2)^1/2 ring a bell?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I coulnot understand u.....
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
\[(u^2)^{1/2}\]... think about it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
a,b constant?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
find values of a, b @mustafa2014
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
aha :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes, a and b is constant.
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
did you figure out what I mean for the substitution yet?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
If i try u=(ax+b)^1/2
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
you could try that too, but I just don't like having square roots
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
sorry, was II dyslexic? h/o no wonder you're confused
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
use u^2=ax+b
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
I'm sorry, about that
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
just remember to fix your limit and replace the x correctly
OpenStudy (anonymous):
The problem is that there is no (ax+b),but there is (ax+b)^1/2
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
that isn't a problem...
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
You just put it in
OpenStudy (anonymous):
try u=x+1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
start by simplifying the expression
((ax+b)^(1/2)-2)/x=1
(ax+b)^1/2-2=x
(ax+b)^1/2=2+x
ax+b=(2+x)^2
ax+b=4+4x+x^2
x^2+(4-a)x+(4-b)=0
now that it is a quadratic in x, consider the limit.
as x->0, we have 4-b=0, thus b=4
plugging in b=4:
x^2+(4-a)x=0
x+(4-a)=0
as x->0, we have 4-a=0, thus a=4
thus a=4 and b=4
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok(this is against my principles,but im tired), you get this limit:
\[lim_{u\rightarrow b} \frac{u-2}{\frac{u^2-b}{a}}=1\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yes,i got this just a minute before.....
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
then just solve
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
just listen to @eashy and be done with this, their method is a lot more simple than what I am thinking of