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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Determinants and Inverses Quiz Help! question and image attached

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to show my work. So i want to understand it, I dont just want answers

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

for addition (and substraction) to work, both matrices must have the same dimension.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what does that mean?

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

A is 2 by 2, but B is 2 by 3. so addition and substraction are not defined (cannot be performed)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see. Can you help with another ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Objection in the court

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what x.x

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

if u multiply both matrices and get the identity matrix, then they r inverses.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No he is wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Think about it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So #1 is wrong? The answer is definitely "not possible" i just need to know why

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

The entire thing is wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-_- i dont understand what youre trying to say though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Read my lipsss

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no. look at the screenshot. the quiz has already been graded. the answer is "not possible". im making corrections but i need to explain why the answer is what it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OMG Read my lips

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you make no sense. im listening to @helder_edwin

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll just explain

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Don't be so rude

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It makes me cry at niight

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

@BAZINGA153760 you are not being neither helpful nor making any sense.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Laying down the laws

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay think about it!

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

Again for addition (and subtraction) to be defined both matrices must have the same dimension. in the exercise, since A is 2 by 2 and B is 2 by 3, u CANNOT subtract them.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hes right. i just refered to my textbook

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@helder_edwin LISTEN TO WHAT IM TELLING YOU

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know more

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Prove it, let me see this text book!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

There is no way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

youre not telling us anything but to listen to what youre telling us....im blocking you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

listen to what im saying

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

regarding the second problem if u multiply both matrices and get the identity matrix, then by definition the matrices are inverses.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right. what about this one?

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

two matrices r equal if the corresponding entries are equal so: \[\large -12=2k \qquad 2f=-14 \] \[\large -w^2=-81\qquad 3=3 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

WRONG

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LISTEN TO WHAT IM SAYNG

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so k=-6 f=-7

OpenStudy (mathmale):

@bazinga153760: your comments are totally inappropriate and out of place here. You are spamming, and, worse, you are interrupting a problem solving session begun by others.

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

yes, u r right. u forgot to solve for "w".

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i know. i cant figure it out x.x

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

well u have \[\large -w^2=-81 \] from which \[\large w^2=81 \] so \[\large w=9\qquad\text{or}\qquad w=-9 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ but -9^{2} doesnt equal -81...\]

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

yes it does: \[\large -w^2=-(-9)^2=-81 \]

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

don't forget that \[\large -w^2\neq(-w)^2 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh. i see i see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

last one

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

do u want the answer or the procedure?

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

i guess the procedure is a lot more helpful. i will use the definition of a determinant using cofactors.

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

\[\large \begin{vmatrix} -4 & 5 & 6\\ 0 & 4 & 4\\ -2 & -5 & 4 \end{vmatrix}= (-4)\begin{vmatrix} 4 & 4\\ -5 & 4 \end{vmatrix}+(5)(-1)\begin{vmatrix} 0 & 4\\ -2 & 4 \end{vmatrix} +(6)\begin{vmatrix} 0 & 4\\ -2 & -5 \end{vmatrix} \]

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Excuse my interrupting, but I'd thought that this quiz was to be on determinants and inverses. None of the conversation up to now has focused on determinants, only on operations with matrices. Only now are you beginning to focus on a problem involving the inverse of a 2x2 matrix. Are you both sure that you're spending time on what is most important to @yelahn?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

You don't need to answer ME...just be clear about where you're spending your time and energy and why. Good luck.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im pretty sure it all applies. the quiz is titled Determinants and Inverses.

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

\[\large =(-4)[4\times4-4\times(-5)]-(5)[0\times4-4\times(-2)]+6 [0\times(-5)-4\times(-2)] \] \[\large =(-4)(16+20)-(5)(0+8)+(6)(0+8) \] \[\large =(-4)(36)-(5)(8)+(6)(8) \] \[\large =-144-40+48=-136 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just did the work for that problem. it matches yours. so hopefully it is correct @helder_edwin

OpenStudy (helder_edwin):

great!

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