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OpenStudy (shamim):

i dont understand onto function. plz explain

OpenStudy (shamim):

f:A=(1,3,5),B=(5,7,9) how f is onto function?

OpenStudy (shamim):

@skullpatrol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@mathmale ur awesome, can you answer this?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

onto simply means that all of B is used, or mapped to

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[f=\left(\begin{matrix} 1&3&5\\5&7&9\end{matrix} \right)\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

A maps onto B using the function f

OpenStudy (shamim):

is not it a one one function?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

it is 1-1 and onto yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

but not all onto function are 1-1

OpenStudy (shamim):

wt is the difference between one one function nd onto function?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

inverses

OpenStudy (amistre64):

x^2 is an onto function, but is not 1-1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[x^2:R\to R^*+\{0\}\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

but \(f(a)\ne f(b)\) for all a,b in R f(-2) = f(2), but -2 is not 2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

isnt R* include 0? the notation eludes me this early lol

OpenStudy (shamim):

give an example which is one one function bt not onto funtion

OpenStudy (amistre64):

.. i just did :/

OpenStudy (amistre64):

let A={-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3} let B={0,1,4,9} and f:A to B is onto \[f=\left(\begin{matrix} -3&-2&-1&0&1&2&3\\9&4&1&0&1&4&9\end{matrix} \right)\]

OpenStudy (shamim):

hm

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if things are paired 1 to 1, then they make distinct couples. bob is married to sally. when you see sally you know that bob is connected to her. when you see bob, you know sally is connected with him. they are a 1-1 coupling. but the relationship of the f i gave, x^2 is not 1-1 since we cannot make unique pairings from A to B

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-3 is married to 9 ... but 9 is in a relationship with -3 and 3 ... 2 is married to 4, but 4 is in a relationship with -2 and 2 -1 and 1 cannot be determined from 1, only 0 is behaving itself

OpenStudy (amistre64):

|dw:1398773949381:dw| onto, but not 1-1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the line y=0 is an onto function; it maps the real numbers to 0 but it is not 1-1

OpenStudy (shamim):

is it possible a function is one one but not onto

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes

OpenStudy (shamim):

example?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

think of something that uses all the real numbers, but does not give back all the real numbers

OpenStudy (shamim):

hw?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

or can you draw a picture of a function that is 1-1, but doesnt use all the elements of the codomian?

OpenStudy (shamim):

no

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can e^x produce any negative numbers? or 0?

OpenStudy (shamim):

no

OpenStudy (amistre64):

but e^x is in a 1-1 relationship ... its invertible. but if the codomain is the set of real numbers, then e^x does not produce all the real numbers.

OpenStudy (shamim):

then

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[e^x=\left(\begin{matrix} e^{-3}&e^0&e^2\\e^{-3}&1&e^2&0&-2&-\frac56\end{matrix} \right)\]

OpenStudy (amistre64):

e^x is not ONTO the real numbers, but it is 1-1

OpenStudy (amistre64):

|dw:1398774898622:dw| 1-1, but not ONTO

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