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OpenStudy (anonymous):

2. A parallelogram has the vertices (-1, 2), (4, 4), (2, -1) and (-3, -3). Determine what type of parallelogram [10 points]. Find the perimeter and area [20 points].

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's what I got...but clearly it's not a parallelogram, so what am I doing wrong, and what do I need to do differently?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8, please help!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

http://prntscr.com/3eu6hv

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

^^thats how it should look. graphing is a very good idea, but u dont need to graph to solve this problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ohhh...duh. Apparently I'm going to be stupid today, brilliant. Thnx for the help! :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

u figured how to work the problem ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

BTW, someone told me the answer to this problem was 12. Are they right? I got 4.2... √((3) – (0))² + ((0) – (3))² = √3² + -3² = √9 + 9 = √18 ≈ 4.2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, I did

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

show me ur complete work

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For the first problem?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for both

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ah...ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

what ever u have so far...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just a mo, then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

working on the second question now

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Are you given instructions that u need to work it by graphing ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, they taught graphing and the distance formula and whatnot

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no, i mean did the instructions specifically ask u to do this by graphing ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cuz, u should NOT use graphing unless the instructions say so

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the common/regular way to work this problem is by finding lengths of sides using `distance formula` and the slopes of sides using `slope formula`

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Those were the directions they gave me

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

cool :) then you're right ! they want u work it by graphing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Given that they gave me the graph, I would assume that they want me to solve it by graphing, but I also used the distance formula to find the lengths of the sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good :) your length of sides, and perimeter are correct. but Area is wrong.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

squaring sides will not give u Area for a rhombus.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh..just looked it up A - diagonal x diagonal/2

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Area of rhombus = \(\frac{1}{2} d_1 d_2\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Great, now I have to find the diagonals, lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

its easy from graph

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

horizontal diagonal = 3--3 = 6 vertical diagonal = 3--3 = 6

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

So, Area = \(\frac{1}{2} d_1 d_2 = \frac{1}{2} 6*6 = 18\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

And that makes the given rhombus a SQUARE !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so the given parallelogram is not just a rhombus, its also a SQUARE !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

for the `type of parallelogram `, you should say that its a `square`

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

if that makes any sense..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The parallelogram is a rhombus and a square?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

just say its a SQUARE !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

rhomus: all equal sides, two pairs of equal angles square: equal sides, equal angles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Does that change my equation for the area, then?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

all squares are parallelograms all squares are rhombuses all squares are rectangles all squares are quadrilaterals

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

a square is many things

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes it will change ur formula, but the answer will be same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see that, lol

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

let me modify it and give u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it will be?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

here is the corrected stuff for question 1 : http://prntscr.com/3euc4h

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you find the diagonals inside a rhombus?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

use the distance formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, its the same process, ok, hold on

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

ok, i presume u knw what a diagonal is :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it just connects the opposite vertices

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

^^those two line segments joining opposite vertices are diagonals

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that correct? I found it odd that I got the same area for #1 and #2...but maybe that's just a coincidence

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

diagonals are not equal in rhombus

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

so u need to calculate the 2nd diagonal also using distance formula

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and then use the area of rhombus formula : Area = \(\frac{1}{2}d_1 d_2\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks good !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thnx! :D

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