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OpenStudy (anonymous):
2. A parallelogram has the vertices (-1, 2), (4, 4), (2, -1) and (-3, -3). Determine what type of parallelogram [10 points]. Find the perimeter and area [20 points].
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
12 years ago
OpenStudy (anonymous):
That's what I got...but clearly it's not a parallelogram, so what am I doing wrong, and what do I need to do differently?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@ganeshie8, please help!
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
^^thats how it should look.
graphing is a very good idea, but u dont need to graph to solve this problem.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ohhh...duh.
Apparently I'm going to be stupid today, brilliant. Thnx for the help! :)
12 years ago
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
u figured how to work the problem ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
BTW, someone told me the answer to this problem was 12. Are they right? I got 4.2...
√((3) – (0))² + ((0) – (3))² = √3² + -3² = √9 + 9 = √18 ≈ 4.2
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes, I did
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
show me ur complete work
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
For the first problem?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
for both
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ah...ok
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
what ever u have so far...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
just a mo, then
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
working on the second question now
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Are you given instructions that u need to work it by graphing ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah, they taught graphing and the distance formula and whatnot
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
no, i mean did the instructions specifically ask u to do this by graphing ?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
cuz, u should NOT use graphing unless the instructions say so
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
the common/regular way to work this problem is by finding lengths of sides using `distance formula` and the slopes of sides using `slope formula`
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Those were the directions they gave me
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
cool :) then you're right ! they want u work it by graphing
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Given that they gave me the graph, I would assume that they want me to solve it by graphing, but I also used the distance formula to find the lengths of the sides
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok :)
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
good :)
your length of sides, and perimeter are correct.
but Area is wrong.
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
squaring sides will not give u Area for a rhombus.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohh..just looked it up A - diagonal x diagonal/2
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Area of rhombus = \(\frac{1}{2} d_1 d_2\)
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes^
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Great, now I have to find the diagonals, lol
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
its easy from graph
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
horizontal diagonal = 3--3 = 6
vertical diagonal = 3--3 = 6
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
So, Area = \(\frac{1}{2} d_1 d_2 = \frac{1}{2} 6*6 = 18\)
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
And that makes the given rhombus a SQUARE !
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
so the given parallelogram is not just a rhombus, its also a SQUARE !
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
for the `type of parallelogram `, you should say that its a `square`
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
if that makes any sense..
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
The parallelogram is a rhombus and a square?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
just say its a SQUARE !
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
rhomus: all equal sides, two pairs of equal angles
square: equal sides, equal angles
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh, ok
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Does that change my equation for the area, then?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
all squares are parallelograms
all squares are rhombuses
all squares are rectangles
all squares are quadrilaterals
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
a square is many things
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
yes it will change ur formula, but the answer will be same
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I see that, lol
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
let me modify it and give u
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
it will be?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
how do you find the diagonals inside a rhombus?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
use the distance formula
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh, its the same process, ok, hold on
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
ok, i presume u knw what a diagonal is :)
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
it just connects the opposite vertices
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
^^those two line segments joining opposite vertices are diagonals
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Is that correct? I found it odd that I got the same area for #1 and #2...but maybe that's just a coincidence
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
diagonals are not equal in rhombus
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
so u need to calculate the 2nd diagonal also using distance formula
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
and then use the area of rhombus formula :
Area = \(\frac{1}{2}d_1 d_2\)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@ganeshie8
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
looks good !
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
thnx! :D
12 years ago