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OpenStudy (anonymous):

HELP: INTEGRATION!!! Best answer gets MEDAL + FAN + TESTIMONIAL.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait a second I have to type it up.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(\int_ x ^(x+ 5) \sqrt{ 1 + e^u} dx\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@iambatman

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The x + 5 is the upper limit of the integral.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Have you tried anything?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes i used the 2nd part of the theorem of calculus but it wasn't right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think its because there are functions in both boundaries. I don't know how to attempt this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll be honest, I've never done an integral like the one you represent.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, alright. Do you know anyone else who can here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh yay, mathmale is here :)!

OpenStudy (mathmale):

\[\int\limits_ x ^(x+ 5) \sqrt{ 1 + e^u} dx \rightarrow \int\limits_{x}^{x+5}\sqrt{1+e^u}dx\]frankly looks very odd in that you have two different variables in the integrand (x and u), and your limits of integration are functions of x. This would make more sense to me were you integrating with respect to u, not with respect to x. Are you positive that you've copied this problem down correctlly? Also, are you positive that the end goal is to INTEGRATE? I'd be willing to bet that the goal of this problem is to find the DERIVATIVE of this function defined as an integral.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's with respect to u.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry for the error.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It's the derivative of the integral as well.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

If (and only if) my hunch is correct, and you're supposed to differentiate a function defined as a definite integral, then you'll need to break this integral into two parts: First: the integral from x to 0. Second: the integral frmo 0 to x+5. You'll need to differentiate each of these two integrals separately, and then combine the results of that differentiation. Care to give these steps a try?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't know how to find an integral from x to 0.

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Note that the Fundamental Theorem section that applies to this type of problem (derivative of a function defined as a definite integral) assumes that we integrate from a constant to either x or some function of x. In YOUR math problem, both limits of integration are functions (one is x, the other is x+5).

OpenStudy (mathmale):

So: we have to break up this integral as previously mentioned, obtaining\[\int\limits_{x}^{0}\sqrt{1+e^u}du+\int\limits_{0}^{x+5}\sqrt{1+e^u}du\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes but does \(\int _ x ^ 0 \sqrt{1 + e^2}du = -\int _ 0 ^ x \sqrt{1 + e^2} \) ?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

...and there is another property that says we can re-write the first term (above) as\[-\int\limits_{0}^{x}\sqrt{1+e^u}du\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\(e^u\)**

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh so I'm right?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

You're on the right track; that's for sure!

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Now, would you attempt to evaluate the first of these two terms? In other words, evaluate \[-\int\limits\limits_{0}^{x}\sqrt{1+e^u}du\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f(g(x)) * g'(x)? Where g(x) is x and f(x) is \(\sqrt {1+e^u}\)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

I agree with that. Good. Focus on the square root expression. Replace u with x. Don't forget to keep that negative sign. What do you get? (Note: the derivative g'(x)=1 here.)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And I would get \(\sqrt{1 + e^(x+5)}\)?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Yes. That would be the result of evaluating the 2nd term from above. So, why not write your most recent term first and then subtract from it your previous term: Please write this out here for verification. Note: You're doing very well!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Can I write full answer because i know how to deal with the second term?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Of course, by all means proceed!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So its \(\sqrt{ 1+ e^(x+5)} - \sqrt{1 + e^x}\)?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Except for the formatting, that's exactly how I would write my answer to this problem. Nice work!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It never works when i put a power with two terms over a pronumeral -.-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is ok if you help me with another?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Please, would you post your next question as a separate question? Thanks.

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