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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Guys please help :0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://screencast.com/t/4JNH9TpLxpvo

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Vincent-Lyon.Fr

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how would i approach a question like this, to make it simple to do

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

Do you know that the centre of mass of a solid cone is a quarter of the total height away from the base?

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

If you cannot use these formula, you can use integration. It is not too difficult. Simply stack elementary discs together, but first put the cone upside down. |dw:1399200618740:dw| Elemental volume of disc is \(dv=\pi \,r^2\,dz\) Since \(\tan \theta = \dfrac rz=\dfrac RH\) then \(dv = \pi \dfrac{R^2}{H^2}z^2\,dz\) So distance of centre of mass from O is \(a=\dfrac{\int_h^Hz\,dv}{\int_h^H\,dv}=\dfrac{\int_h^Hz^3\,dz}{\int_h^Hz^2\,dz}=\dfrac 34\;\dfrac{H^4-h^4}{H^3-h^3}\) Work this out with H = 1.2 m and h = 0.8 m then the distance from larger plane will be b = H - a = 0.174 m

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

Elemental disc is here: radius r and thickness dz |dw:1399201329109:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i hvent learn integration yet, what about the cone formula/?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this looks complicated :/

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

In order to solve this problem, you need either to be able to integrate, or you need to know 3 formulae: - volume of a cone of radius R and height H : \(V=\dfrac \pi 3 R^2H\) - position of the centre of mass of a solid cone : \(z=\dfrac 34 H\) - composition of centre of mass : \((m_1+m_2) \,\vec {OG}_{total}=m_1\,\vec {OG}_1+m_2 \,\vec {OG}_2\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i know tht formula "_

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i dont know the centre of mass to the lower body :/

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

Use the formula this way: \(M \,\dfrac 34 H=m \,\dfrac 34 h+(M-m) \, a\) and solve for a, using the formulae above.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u explain why its M-m and the reason u hve arranged the equation in that way :/ its confusing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with a diagram ?

OpenStudy (vincent-lyon.fr):

In order to use formulae (1) and (2), you need full cones. Then you say: Big cone = small cone + truncated cone and apply the last formula. |dw:1399210046764:dw|

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