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OpenStudy (askme12345):

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OpenStudy (askme12345):

A survery was given and here are the results "Number responding less than 1 week" gender - X N males - 71 411 females - 64 253 a) construct a 95% confidence interval for the difference in the proportions of males and females at this unv. who would respond 'less than one week b) does there appear to be evidence of a difference in the proportions of men and women at this university who would respond less than 1 week. provide statistical justification

OpenStudy (askme12345):

This is how the chart looks |dw:1399436535892:dw|

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

how far did you get with it? were you able to start part a) or b)?

OpenStudy (askme12345):

I wasn't sure how to approach doing the confidence interval I know i'll need the mean, so 71/411 and 64/253 (?) and im not sure how to do standard deviation. I guess its the chart thats messing me up

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you know how to calculate the standard error for the proportion?

OpenStudy (askme12345):

standard deviation/ square root of sample size

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's for the mean, not proportion

OpenStudy (askme12345):

oh sorry! square root of p(1-p)/n p=71/411 = .1727 So (.173)(.827)/411 =.0003481

OpenStudy (askme12345):

the square root of that is .01865756..

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

That's the standard error for the male proportion, call this SE1

OpenStudy (askme12345):

for females it would be 64/253 = .2530 so (.253)(.747)/253 = .000747 square root of that = .02733130..

OpenStudy (askme12345):

SE2?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good, we'll call that SE2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now to calculate the overall standard error for the difference in proportions between p1 and p2, we square each standard error SE1, SE2 add them up and then take the square root so SE = sqrt( (SE1)^2 + (SE2)^2 )

OpenStudy (askme12345):

sqrt(.00034810+.000747) = sqrt (.0010951045) SE=.0331

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Any confidence interval is of the form x +- z*SE where x is the point estimate z is the critical value (we could use a t critical value in its place) SE is the standard error

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we have SE, which is SE = 0.0331

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

how do we find z?

OpenStudy (askme12345):

Okay So to find the z i opened the t table you had given me in the last problem, so i looked at 95% and not sure where to go from there :(

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're using this table right? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5u1UHojRiJk/TEdJJc6of2I/AAAAAAAAAIE/Ai0MW5VgIhg/s1600/t-table.jpg

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

look in the row that starts with infinity

OpenStudy (askme12345):

yup so 1.96

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the point estimate is the difference between p1 and p2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

p1 - p2 = ???

OpenStudy (askme12345):

.173-.253=-.08

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so you'll have -0.08 +- z*SE

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-0.08 is the center of the confidence interval z*SE is your margin of error

OpenStudy (askme12345):

x +- z*SE -.08+(-1.96)(.0331) -.144876

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

+- means plus or minus

OpenStudy (askme12345):

oh sorry

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so there's going to be two results the lower limit and the upper limit

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

lower limit = -0.08 - z*SE upper limit = -0.08 + z*SE

OpenStudy (askme12345):

-.08-.064876 =-.144876 -.08+.064876=-.015124

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let me confirm

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

looks correct to me, nice job

OpenStudy (askme12345):

yay!! so thats the 95% confidence interval? right and for part b could i just right yes there is evidenceof difference in proportion becauseof the difference in standard error

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I think you have to do a 2 proportion z test for that part

OpenStudy (askme12345):

ugh so i use z= p1 - p2 / sqrt p(1-p) sqrt (1/n1+ 1/n2)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well the good news is that we have the standard error SE

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that was done in part A

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the test statistic z is z = (p1 - p2)/SE

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh wait, does it say anything about pooled samples?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if so, then yeah you have to use sqrt(p(1-p)(1/n1+ 1/n2))

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

where p = (p1*n1 + p2*n2)/(n1+n2)

OpenStudy (askme12345):

nope! it just says what i wrote above and the begining blurb says "each person in a random sample of female students and random sample of male students at a particular univeristy was asked, how long ago did u last skip?" the table below shows sample sizes and the numbers who responded less than 1 week ago

OpenStudy (askme12345):

so nothing about pooled

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok, well according to this page http://www.statisticslectures.com/topics/ztestproportions/

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we use the formula you posted

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we'll have to go with that

OpenStudy (askme12345):

yeah thats the page i read on actually

OpenStudy (askme12345):

sooo here we go. .173-.253 _____________ sqrt.20 (.80) * sqrt 1/411 + 1/253 -.08 _______ (.4)*.079910 -.08 ____ .0319641278 = -2.50280

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm getting -2.49417125130672, but I'm using up to 10 decimal digits

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so it's pretty close

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

once you have your test statistic, find the area to the left of it and then double that result (this is a two tailed test)

OpenStudy (askme12345):

can i use this http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/gerstman/StatPrimer/t-table.pdf

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you could, but you'd have to work backwards better to use this http://www.math.upenn.edu/~chhays/zscoretable.pdf

OpenStudy (askme12345):

0.0049 ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you're using z = -2.50, the area would be 0.0062

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

either way, you'll be smaller than 5% (the default significance level)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the p value is even smaller than 1%

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

we should have set up the hypothesis first, but Ho: p1 = p2 Ha: p1 =/= p2 the p value is smaller than alpha, so we reject the null and go with p1 =/= p2 that means the proportions are statistically different

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh wait, I forgot to double the area, my bad

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

0.0062*2 = 0.0124 so you reject at alpha = 0.05

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but if alpha = 0.01, then you'd fail to reject

OpenStudy (askme12345):

do you just assume alpha .05? since it wasn't stated?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah when it's not stated, it's assumed alpha = 0.05 (pretty much every stats textbook, teacher I've seen go to this default)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

also, alpha = 1 - (Confidence Level) so alpha = 1 - 95% = 0.05

OpenStudy (askme12345):

so we have evidence of a difference in proportion of men and woman

OpenStudy (askme12345):

thank you SOO much!!!!!! SO much!! Wishing you were my proffesor! haha thank you again!!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Yes we have evidence of a difference in proportion of men and woman. I'm glad to be of help

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