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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Trig Problems Please Help?!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what r the problems

OpenStudy (anonymous):

give me a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1. Find the exact value of tan(17π / 12). 2. Prove the identity (sin(2x) / sin x) – (cos(2x) / cos x) = sec x. 3. Solve sin(x + (π / 4)) – sin(x – (π / 4) = 1.

OpenStudy (yttrium):

\[\tan \frac{ 17 \pi }{ 12 } \] is same as getting \[\tan \frac{ 5 }{ 12 }\] through reference angle theorem, right?

OpenStudy (yttrium):

and you know that \[\tan \frac{ 5 }{ 12 } = \tan (\frac{ 1 }{ 4 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 6 })\] so apply identies

OpenStudy (yttrium):

do you follow @B.Sanders

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not really I don't understand this stuff at all.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you don't understand this stuff at all, i would suggest that these different and complicated questions is not the place to begin

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can walk you through one of them if you like, but my guess is it would not make sense or help in any way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We could try

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pick one if you like by 'this stuff" do you mean these problems or trig in general? these problems have to do with addition angle formulas (and subtraction)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't understand problems like these

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so here is a nice cheat sheet with the formulas we need then we can use them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now there are a lot of formulas on there, but we are only using the "addition and subtraction" formulas for these problems do you see them? one says something like \[\sin(\alpha +\beta)=\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\cos(\alpha)\sin(\beta)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yea

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so lets tackle the last problem first, it is easiest to explain

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually there are a couple ways to do it but lets just use the formula \[\sin(\alpha +\beta)=\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\cos(\alpha)\sin(\beta)\] for the first term in problem 3, which is \[\sin(x+\frac{\pi}{4})\] i hope it is clear that the way to use the formula is to replace \(\alpha\) by \(x\) and \(\beta\) by \(\frac{\pi}{4}\) you with me so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok now that is easy for me to do, i can just copy and paste

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sin(\alpha +\beta)=\sin(\alpha)\cos(\beta)+\cos(\alpha)\sin(\beta)\] \[\sin(x+\frac{\pi}{4})=\sin(x)\cos(\frac{\pi}{4})+\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

clear so far? we can actually evaluate two of these, but there may be no need to do it at this step

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok now we are going to compute \[\sin(x-\frac{\pi}{4})=\sin(x)\cos(\frac{\pi}{4})-\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then we are going to subtract the second one from the first don't forget the distributive law

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you get, if my algebra is correct, \[2\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})\] look good?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did you get 2cos(x)sin(pi/4) if cos is paired with x and pi/4 and so is sin?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is what i did easier to write without all the sines and cosines \[A+B-(A-B)=2B\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let me know if that is clear yet otherwise i have to write it out with all the sines and cosines, which i guess i can do by copying and pasting

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sin(x)\cos(\frac{\pi}{4})+\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})-[\sin(x)\cos(\frac{\pi}{4})-\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})]\] \[=2\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the terms \(\sin(x)\cos(\frac{\pi}{4})\) cancel, i.e. add to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay makes sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok that is all the use of the formula now our job is to solve \[2\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})=1\] so now it is time to evaluate \(\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})\) do you know what that is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

One min

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.014?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is on the cheat sheet i sent you, but if you are going to do a bunch of trig you should memorize this one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I used my calculator the way my teacher showed us. I could be wrong tho.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh no my dear, lets back up and go slow first of all forget about decimals take a look at the unit circle on the last page of the cheat sheet

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is not a calculator exercise in any way you need the "exact" value look at the unit circle on the last page of the cheat sheet i sent find \(\frac{\pi}{4}\) on the circle, then look at the corresponding coordinates let me know when you see it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see it the values are \[\frac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 },\frac{ \sqrt{2} }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok good! the first coordinate is \(\cos(\frac{\pi}{4})\)and the second coordinate is \(\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})\) but since they are both the same, you can't really mess this up now we have \[\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})=\frac{\sqrt2}{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now the equation \[2\cos(x)\sin(\frac{\pi}{4})=1\] becomes \[2\cos(x)\frac{\sqrt2}{2}=1\] or more simply put \[\sqrt2\cos(x)=1\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

almost done you got that part?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry got kicked off.

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