We are given four equations and we have to find n here: \[4n = m^2 + k^2 + m + k\] \[8056 = m^2 - k^2 + m - k\] \[n - 2014 = \frac{k(k+1)}{2}\] \[n + 2014 = \frac{m(m+1)}{2}\] btw, I derived the first 2 equations from the bottom 2 equations.
@ganeshie8 @AravindG
@robtobey @SolomonZelman
What were the original equations?
The bottom two.
its solvable :)
i got 2n=1 n=1/2
n has to be a natural number.
:/
wait :3
I got 2 x 2 x 2 x 19 x 53 = (m+k+1)(m-k) Now (m+k+1) is always greater than (m-k) We CAN use this to find 'n' but it'll take a heck lot of time!
sorrt idk lol @ganeshie8 wanna try ?
@agent0smith @nincompoop
Idk, but to me it looks like you have to think of isolating one of the variables using "what 2014 is equal to", but other than that it is 2 equations with 3 variables. Also knowing that it has to be positive integer... too much thinking for me, sorry -;(
its not like that lol , but i know nothing abt k,m how could i continue ?
whats the whol question cuz i dnt read the horoscope lolz
Now (m+k+1) is always greater than (m-k) , only when m,k possitive
yes also : 2 x 2 x 2 x 19 x 53 = (m+k+1)(m-k) you have only 16 cases to consider
so why do u think it gona take lot of time ? and an observation - right hand side of both equations is a triangular number
But I'd have to solve for m and k, 16 times, and i may get n only few times. m and k and n are all greater than zero.
ohh lol so n-2014 n+2014 should apply |dw:1400433779540:dw|
Also notice that if m-k is even, then m+k+1 has to be odd and vice versa
why?
oh got it ok.
so that reduces our work by more than a half :)
Now how many cases are going to be there?
the even prime powers : 2^3 must all lie in either m-k or m+k+1
m-k and m+k+1 cannot share 2's
Oh yeah! So 8 * 19 * 53 are the options now right?
Looks good ! 8 cases to consider now
3 cases right? ;____; 8*19 * 53 19*53 * 8 8*53 * 19
@ganeshie8 ?
m-k = {1, 8,19, 53, 8*19, 19*53, 53*8, 8*19*53}
dont be so much relieved... :P there are 8 cases to work^^
Oh yeah, how could i forget the '1'. Yeah, not relieved at all. ;__;
i dont see any easy ways out... u need to test all 8 cases i think... goodluck !
Thanks but, you helped me narrow it down to 8 cases. T___T
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=solve+in+integers+8056+%3D+%28m%2Bk%2B1%29%28m-k%29
use that to verify/reverse engineer ^
m and k both always have to positive right? Because they form, the triangular numbers?
I think so, i never heard of negative triangular numbers... @BSwan do u ?
nope
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