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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Integral 4xe^-x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you will need to use integration by parts. There may be a simpler method I'm not seeing, however.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[udv = uv-\int\limits_{}^{}duv\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

set 4x as your u and e^-x as your dv

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think I'm even more confused now. I don't use methods like that in my maths, and I cant find my notes on integration by parts

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you in calc 1 or calc 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

see this http://mathnow.wordpress.com/2009/10/14/liate-ilate-and-detail/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as @VeritasVosLiberabit said you should use integration by parts and the trick in it is to choose u and v , in the previous link there's an acronym to remember which one to pick as u and v. hope its helpful

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@SandeepReddy I wonder if there is another way (calc 1 method?) that I am forgetting.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

to my knowledge i can assure that this is the only way to do it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just hit me that you guys are probably american? I'm studying in Scotland and its a uni module I'm doing thats got the integration in it, so the method I've been shown may differ.. I can find notes on integration by substitution, is that the same thing? Tbh I'm totally unsure of integration as a whole and dont even really know how to integrate any of the parts at all. I'm just so lost!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@adrianne92 So if this is your first calc class, that is what makes me think there may a clever trick to figuring this out. But the only way I can think to solve this at the moment is using integration by parts

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

I've always seen this type of integral being solved with integration by parts.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is integration by parts similar to the function of a function rule in differentiation?

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

I think this page will explain it well: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~park/Fall2011/integration/Integration%20by%20parts.pdf It also gives a proof for it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have integration by substitution right?, so in that method, you will first find an antiderivative ( integral ) of the function and then substitute the end values and substract them right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes thats right, is this the same thing then?

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

Integration by parts is not the same as the "regular" substitution rule. Please check here it will explain it in more detail, and here are loads of examples: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~park/Fall2011/integration/Integration%20by%20parts.pdf

OpenStudy (kirbykirby):

there* Including an example similar to yours

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@adrianne92 , here integration by parts is just finding anti derivative of the function given to you, and integration by substitution needs you to find the anti derivative ( as in integration by parts) and then you will substitute the end values given to you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you just need to find the anti derivative , do you get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think so, I'm having a look at that link @kirbykirby gave me just now and I think your explanation there will help me with using my substitution notes just as a guideline

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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