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OpenStudy (anonymous):

According to the Venn diagram below, what is P(A or B or C) ? 22/25 23/25 21/25 24/25

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It seems to be 1/2 to me, but that is not one of the choices.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

forgot to post image.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

add them all first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

50

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, and how many are there in A or B or C ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

25

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

50-8 = 42 right ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

A or B or C includes everything that belongs to any or all of A/B/C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That just doesn't make sense to me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it seems like it must be what is P(A or B or C) + P(A and B) + P(A and C) + P(B and C) + P(A and B and C)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

save that formula

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you just need to add up all the numbers in A, B, C

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that gives u the favorable count n(A or B or C)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

P(A or B or C) = n(A or B or C)/n(total)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So as long as it has one of the letters, it is included in P(A or B or C)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

P(A U B U C) = P(A) + P(B) + P(C) - P(A^B) - P(B^C) - P(C^A) + P(A^B^C)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, the key thing to keep in mind is "A or B" is not an exclusive OR.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But minoz's equation doesn't work here.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

`A or B` includes everything in `either A` or `B` or `Both`

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which means that minoz's equation would give a different answer, right?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im not looking at minoz's equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The equation he provided is the one I was given, but it gives a different answer.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it may give the same answer, but you're given a venn diagram - the easy way to do it is to take the ratio of favorable and total

OpenStudy (anonymous):

He is subtracting the two letter combinations but the answer requires that you add them.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and only subtract the a 8 because it isn't A B or C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the 8*

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're subtracting whatever u have counted twice, u can look up for the derivation of that formula

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

"A and B" gets counted in both P(A) and P(B) so in the formula u need to subtract it... but i feel we're digressing from the original problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

10 + 8 + 7 - 2 - 4 - 5 + 6 - 8 = 12

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that equation leaves me with 6/25 probability

OpenStudy (anonymous):

btw, @minoz is a lady not a guy, I also made that mistake because I havent meet smart ladies in maths been so smart like her so assumed its a guy ganeshie8 is right and minoz's formula is correct

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Alright ! lets work it using all the glorious formula to convince u that both methods are equivalent :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

FIrst observation on notation : n(A) is NOT the same thing as P(A)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is n(A)?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're using both of them interchangeably - n(A) = number of favorable outcomes for event A p(A) = probability of event A

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

both are different things, okay ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Is this ur formula : `P(A U B U C) = P(A) + P(B) + P(C) - P(A and B) - P(B and C) - P(C and A) + P(A and B and C)` ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Okay, lets calculate all the probabilities one by one : P(A) = ? P(B) = ? P(C) = ? P(A and B) = ? P(B and C) = ? P(C and A) = ? P(A and B and C) = ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So would P(A) be 22/50?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

P(A) = n(A) / n(total) = 22/50

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, I was counting it as 10/50 before

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, calculate the remaining stuff

OpenStudy (anonymous):

50???

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes i have noticed that ! you're thinking "or" as "exclusive or" thats the only misinterpretation in ur logic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I understand that. But I still don't see how it's not exclusively a or b or c

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats the definition

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8 how should be find total n i.e, 50 u got

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@BMF96 counted all of them and told me they addup to 50

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yaa i got it thank u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So if they asked what is P(A) ? They want to know the probability of A being in the answer, not just A exclusively. Correct?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

You got it !!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, that is why I couldn't get it. Thanks so much for your help!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Im glad u took time and nailed it down fully :) yw !

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