Help Me Plz Important Algebra Question!
Part 1: Create a scenario for an arithmetic sequence. For example, Jasmine practices the piano for ______ minutes on Monday. Every day she ___________ her practice time by _________. If she continues this pattern, how many minutes will she practice on the 7th day? Be sure to fill in the blanks with the words that will create an arithmetic sequence. Use your scenario to write the function for the 7th term in your sequence using sequence notation. Part 2: Create a scenario for a geometric sequence. For example, Anthony goes to the gym for ______ minutes on Monday. Every day he _________his gym time by ____________. If he continues this pattern, how many minutes will he spend at the gym on the 5th day? Be sure to fill in the blanks with the words that will create a geometric sequence. Use your scenario to write the formula for the 5th term in your sequence using sequence notation. Part 3: Use your scenario from part 2 to write a question that will lead to using the geometric series formula. Use the formula to solve for Sn in your scenario
@mtbender74 plz help...
so what is an arithmetic sequence and what is a geometric sequence?
An arithmetic sequence is a sequence with a common difference and a gometric sequence is a sequence with a common ratio
exactly...in other words, arithmetic sequences add/subtract the same amount and geometric sequences multiply/divide the same amount Arithmetic: 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, ... Geometric: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, ...
ok lol
So for each of part 1 and 2, you need to pick an initial amount of time, then pick if it will be increasing or decreasing, and then pick the amount of increase/decrease
20 minuits, increases (make her work harder lol), 10% to make it easy
10% is a geometric...
oh ok sorry
10 minuites
so, how long will she practice on the 7th day?
the nth term of an arithmetic sequence is found by \[a_{n}=a_{1}+r(n-1)\]
1 1/2 hours
check that again...you don't add the 10 minutes the first day, so how many 10 minutes increases are there by the 7th day?
80 mins
better :)
Now for part 2, it's the same sort, but you increase by a factor (10%, twice, 10 times, etc.)
That was part 1 already?!
as long as you can take the equation above and fill in the piece for last piece of part 1 :)
ok so for part 2 lets put in the same things but 10%
ok...so 20 minutes, increase by 10% each time
yup!
now you want the 5th day... the general form of a geometric is\[a_{n}=a_{1}r^{n-1}\] but here we have to be careful because since we are *increasing* each day is 110% of the previous...so r=1.1
so \[a_{5}=?\]
? isn't it 0.1x
well, let's think about it...we increase 10%, so the second day would be 20 + 20(0.1) = 20(1 + 0.1) = 20(1.1)
uhh still confused
ok...let's talk about geometrics for a bit. let say we want to start at 3 and double each time...ok?
2x
oh i think i got it
\[a_{1}=3\] \[a_{2}=2a_{1}=3(2)\] \[a_{3}=2a_{2}=[3(2)](2)=3(2)^{2}\] so we see the general formula forming \[a_{n}=a_{1}r^{n-1}\]
but since you have a percentage increase, we have to add 100% since tomorrow we will do 110% of today
so in that case, r=1.1 if we did a 10% decrease, r=.9
Oh ok
makes more sense?
yea
so you think you have your general formula for 20 minutes with a 10% increase?
until when
well, the general formula for the nth term would be \[a_{n}=20(1.1)^{n-1}\] but you want the 5th term...
28
\[a_{5}=20(1.1)^{4}=?\]
what does a stand for
\[a_{n}\] means the nth term of the sequence....
29.282 {admitting he finally used a claculator
lol...there's nothing wrong with that...i certainly wouldn't do (1.1)^5 by hand
y not
it would get a little boring by the third or fourth multiplication...
lol
Now, for part 3, we need to find a general formula for \[S_{n}\] which is the sum of the first n terms of the sequence This would be like me asking, "How much total gym time would Anthony have spent after the 5th day?"
well, we can calculate all five days and add them up, but if we then changed it to a month, you'd really not like doing it by hand... so let's see if we can get an equation for it directly... \[\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}(ar^{k})=a(\frac{1-r^{n}}{1-r})\] is the formula you would use where a is your initial amount, and r is the same as before
so \[S_{n}=a(\frac{1-r^{n}}{1-r})\] where a=20, r=1.1
fill those in and Part 3 should be done
I apologize my internet was down even when it showed i was online it always happens i have 2 megabits per second
weird... to sum up, part 3 consists of a question similar to the one above, and then is answered using the formula for Sn a couple posts ago :)
So what do i put for part 3?
you see the sample question about 6 posts ago? it starts with something like that then, you need to answer the question using the formula above \[S_{n}=a(\frac{1-r^{n}}{1-r})\]
So start with a similar question...
oh boy too many formulas
lol...i know...
Mark goes to the park for ______ minutes on Sunday. Every day he _________his park time by ____________. If he continues this pattern, how many minutes will he spend at the park on the 5th day?
Not quite the question we were looking for... "Now, for part 3, we need to find a general formula for Sn which is the sum of the first n terms of the sequence This would be like me asking, "How much total gym time would Anthony have spent after the 5th day?" "
That's the post i was referring to :)
oh sry lol
so that's the sort of question you need... then you would use the same a and r from Part 2 with however many days you want to sum up in the formula above, and that is Part 3 :)
what formula which one
@mtbender74
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