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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Does anyone know to solve depressed cubic equations

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sing them a happy song but in all seriousness, ye, what do you need help with

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol , solving a general depressed one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

show us your problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Like solving x^3 + 3x + 4 =0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which has the missing x^2 term in the cubic polynomial is called depressed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is true. so this is of the form: x^3 + Ax = B we have to find two numbers, f and g, so that: $$A = 3fg \\ f^3-g^3 = B$$ so: 3 = 3fg f^3-g^3 = -4 do you know any numbers that satisfy this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That's a problem i just created , it maynot have perfect whole no factors , but i seem to get a idea thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i tried to simplify it as much as possible, lol. np

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well i got it here http://2000clicks.com/mathhelp/FactoringCubic1.aspx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Which grade are u in?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you figured out how to solve these ? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes cardano's method

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes that method is there, but can u apply it really and get all the way to having solutions ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you will need to take complex roots on the way...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

try to solve ur cubic and see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I will solve it after i complete my hw :)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

sure, whenever u have time... ive never seen anyone solving a cubic manually before lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol , i am going to use a calculator otherwise i will die

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

but ur equation can be solved easily w/o using cardon's method as -1 is one solution

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simply do synthetic division and use quadratic formula to solve the remaining quadratic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i heard there is a way to solve septic equations (i am not going to ) but the wikipedia hardly mentions it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not all septics are solvable

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

may be only few can be solvable

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

It is a proven fact that there is no algebraic method for solving 5th degree and above polynomials

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you can solve all 4th degree polynomials also^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes quartic

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

anyways do ur hw for now lol, we can get back to these later :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just wanted to ask you out of curiosity how did came to know about OS

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

haha by clicking a link in electromagnetism course page : http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/physics/8-02-electricity-and-magnetism-spring-2002/video-lectures/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wbu ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was solving a 3d trigo problem and i posted in google and i clicked the first link and i was into the OS world @wio helped me (my first question)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

interesting!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

wow ! @wio went ghost for last few days.. not seeing him much these days ;=;

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, He is not there He is a trigonometry specialist , he mostly solves trig related problems

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