Logarithms
lol write the equation well this time :D
\[\log_{\log_{\log_{...}}} (\infty ^{\infty})=?\]
0 I guess....
\[\huge (0.5)^{\log_3\log_\frac{ 1 }{ 5 }\left( x ^{2}-\frac{ 4 }{ 5 } \right)} < 1\]
Sorry @mathslover I just made that up to joke around, I don't think it has an answer lol.
lol... I just guessed :-P
@No.name - You need to solve for x, right?
Yes
I have a hunch that rewriting .5 as 2^(-1) will help. I'm thinking still.
that will help actually
as , \(\log_{5^{-1}} (x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5}) = -1 \log _ {5} (x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5})\) so, \( (0.5)^{\log_3\log_\cfrac{ 1 }{ 5 }( x ^{2}-\cfrac{ 4 }{ 5 } )} < 1\) becomes : \((2) ^ {\log_3 \log_5 (x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5})} < 1\)
We can also write it as : \((2) ^ {\log_3 \log_5 (x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5})} < 2^{0}\)
then it would be solvable yes
\[.5^{\log_3(\log_{1/5}(x^2-4/5))}<1\]log base 1/2 to both sides\[\log_3(\log_{1/5}(x^2-4/5))<0\] Make both exponents of 3\[\log_{1/5}(x^2-4/5)<1\]Raise these as exponents of 1/5\[x^2-4/5<1/5\]Add 4/5 to both sides\[x^2<1\]x=1
x=-1* whoops
That is what I got..
yes , thanks
Turns out the whole 2^(-1) thing really didn't matter lol.
@Kainui , when you take log base 1/2 in RHS, then shouldn't it be -1 (RHS)?
No, I don't think so, but I'm not sure if I know what you mean.
(1/2)^0 = 1
looking back, I'm pretty sure this is a wrong statement: \[\log_{1/5}a=-\log_5a\] The rule I think you're thinking of is some combination of \[\log_ba=(\log_ca)/(\log_cb)\] and \[-\log(a)=\log(\frac{1}{a})\]
Sorry, I got it...
All good haha no worries. =P
(1/2)^0 =1
but yeah, \(\log _{5^{-1}} (a) = -1 \log_{5} (a) \)
That's what he means to say , so what was @mathslover 's problem , i didn't get
I used base power rule... \(\log_{a^m} x = \cfrac{1}{m} \log_a x\)
No, you're saying: \[\log_{1/5}(x)=-\log_5(x)\] but what I'm saying is \[\log_{1/5}(x)=-\log_{1/5}(\frac{1}{x})\]
I'm pretty sure what you're saying isn't a rule, or maybe I'm tired... @_@
It is a rule
Yeah, now I'm pretty sure my answer is wrong after plugging it in. -1 doesn't solve it.
You're also right @Kainui with your second property. But, the first one you mentioned is actually a rule, one can use it directly like if you're supposed to find : \(\log_4 {16} = ?\) there will be 2 suitable methods : i) \(\log_4 {4^2} = 2 \log_4{4} = 2\) ii) \(\log_{2^2} {2^4} = \cfrac{1}{2} \log_2 {2^4} = 2 \log_2 2 = 2 \) Both works...
Same thing written in two different forms
Well, if I solve it in my way... I get \(x^2 < \cfrac{29}{5}\)
\(2 ^{\log_3 \log_5 (x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5})} < 2^ 0\) Thus, \(\log_3 \log_5 ( x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5} ) < 0\) \(\log_5 ( x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5}) < 1\) \(x^2 - \cfrac{4}{5} < 5 \\ x^2 < \cfrac{29}{5} \)
isn't x^2 < 1 mean x<1 and x >-1
Wow it's actually pretty easy to derive from the rules I put out there lol. I feel silly, I've never seen that rule ever before, weird. \[\log_{a^m}(x)=\frac{\log_{a}(x)}{\log_{a}(a^m)}=\frac{1}{m}\log_a(x)\] @hartnn Yeah, you're obviously completely right. I shouldn't be here lol.
O.O then why am I getting a weird answer? will anyone help me to recognize the mistake in my soln?
I think your solution might be more right than mine is. I'm rethinking it, this is really weird hahahaha.
:-)
Try plugging that in @mathslover and see if you get a correct answer out of it.
k , will try that
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%5E%5Blog_3+%7Blog_5+%2829%2F5-+4%2F5%29%7D%5D+%3D+
I tried for 29/5 that means, if I put any value *less than 29/5* then it will give result which will be \(\bf{<1}\) .
that makes me little bit happy , I finally solved a logarithm question ... http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2%5E%5Blog_3+%7Blog_5+%285-+4%2F5%29%7D%5D+%3D+
math, you used 5 instead of 1/5
o.O
you made me feel bad again
but, will that matter? as I used 2 instead of 1/2
I think, I'm on a wrong track
Yeah, there's a bit of an error in your third step far, far above when removing the negative signs though.
So in the exponent of 2 we had \[-\log_3(-\log_5(x^2-4/5))\] but I don't think that those signs cancel each other out.
kainui method is correct also i just realized, x^2 -4/5 say x = 0 it'll be -4/5 which is not allowed
OH YES!
|dw:1401537471189:dw| THanks @hartnn @Kainui and @No.name for this question.
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