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OpenStudy (anonymous):

help!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

show that the sequence \[X _{n}= \sum_{k=1}^{n} \frac{ 1}{ k } -Log(n+1) \] where, n is grater and equal than 1

OpenStudy (shamim):

wt is ur question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i need to show that the sequence is convergent. Can anyone show me which way do i need to follow..

Parth (parthkohli):

Is that \(-\log(k+1)\)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, log(n+1)

Parth (parthkohli):

OK. Did you try to see the integral?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, but i think limit would be helpful. but i am not sure.. what is your idea ?

Parth (parthkohli):

Do you know the integral test for convergence? If an integral exists with the same limits, then a sum does too.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Wait, is the -log(n+1) part inside or outside of the summation?

Parth (parthkohli):

OP says it's not \(\log(k + 1)\), so must be outside.

OpenStudy (kainui):

Well, not necessarily. It would just be trickier lol.

Parth (parthkohli):

Oh, yes. lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is integral boundary? 1 to n ? or 1 to infinite ?

Parth (parthkohli):

If you want to show that it is convergent, 1 to infinity.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what about log(n+1) part.. if n goes to infinite then, log term goes to infinite as well ..

Parth (parthkohli):

That's what I was thinking.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

also, sum part is divergent as i know, if n goes to infinite.

Parth (parthkohli):

Yes, that's why I think that the \(\log(n + 1)\) is outside. It's giving me the right result.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so,it is weird but, that two divergent terms cancel each other,, ? :S

OpenStudy (kainui):

If you draw a picture it should be clear why they "cancel".

Parth (parthkohli):

\[-\log{(n + 1)} + \int_{1}^{n } \dfrac{1}{n}dn\]\[-\log(n + 1) + \log(n) = \log(n/n+1)\]\[n \to \infty \implies \log(1) = 0\]

Parth (parthkohli):

Whoops.

Parth (parthkohli):

\[\int_{1}^{n} \dfrac{1}{k}dk\]

Parth (parthkohli):

Yes, that's it. lol.

Parth (parthkohli):

Here's a picture of your series. The parts that are above the curve start to decrease.\[\sum \dfrac{1}{k} = \int \dfrac{1}{k}dk + \sum \rm parts ~above~the~curve\] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Integral_Test.svg

Parth (parthkohli):

It's clear that as you approach infinity, the area above the curve will be zero. So the sum of the "parts above the curve" converges.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so both two terms are convergences .. ?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Actually if you draw it like this: |dw:1401548179505:dw| then you can definitely say \[\int\limits_1^n \frac{dk}{k} \ge\sum_1^n\frac{1}{k}\] then just subtract off ln(n+1) from both sides and take the limit like you just did. Sorry to interrupt!

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