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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Modulus and log

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\huge \left| x-3 \right|^{3x^2-10x+3}=1\]

mathslover (mathslover):

Tried taking log both sides?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right hand sde would become 0

mathslover (mathslover):

\(3x^2 - 10x + 3 \log |x-3| = 0\)

mathslover (mathslover):

Yeah, RHS will become 0. Using power rule, the power of |x-3| will come out of the log as multiplication. \((3x^2 - 10x + 3) \log |x-3| = 0\)

mathslover (mathslover):

So, you have two cases \[ \left\{ \begin{array}{lr} 3x^2 - 10x + 3 = 0\\ \log |x-3| = 0 \end{array} \right. \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the first one can be solved

mathslover (mathslover):

\(\cfrac{10 \pm \sqrt{100 - 36}}{6} = \cfrac{10 \pm 8 }{6} = 3 ~~ \text{or} ~~\cfrac{1}{3} \) So, x = 3 or 1/3 for the given function to be zero. Now, for \(\log |x-3| = 0 \) There are again two cases.

OpenStudy (dan815):

how does log of moduluses work

mathslover (mathslover):

Squaring both sides will work I think.

mathslover (mathslover):

No. that will not work.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1st case :- log(x-3) =0 x-3=1 x=4 2nd case -log(x-3)=0 dividing by -1 log(x-3)=0 x-3=1 x=4

OpenStudy (dan815):

b^(x-3)=3n for any b>1

mathslover (mathslover):

When x is real then \(\log |x-3| = \cfrac{1}{2} \log (x-3)^2 = 0 \) Thus, \(\log (x-3)^2 = 0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What's wrong with the above method

mathslover (mathslover):

As \(\log (x-3)^2 = 0\) Therefore, \( (x-3)^2 = 1\) Thus, x-3 = 1 or x-3 = -1 x = 4 or x = 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why did you square , and what's wrong with the method i did

mathslover (mathslover):

The method I did followed the properties of logarithms. You can follow this method - log|x-3| = 0 |x-3| = 1 (x-3) = - 1 or (x-3) = 1 x = 2 and x = 4 For your method (x-3) = +1 or (x-3) = -1

mathslover (mathslover):

\(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @No.name 2nd case -log(x-3)=0 dividing by -1 log(x-3)=0 \(\bf{x-3=1} \) x=4 \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\) The bolded text has the problem... you only took one condition which is x-3 can also be equal to (-1)

hartnn (hartnn):

3 won't be the solution

mathslover (mathslover):

* which is x-3 = 1 but (x-3) can also be equal to -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah i did some goof up there but you got the point. I am already a bit frustated as my internet is not working

mathslover (mathslover):

That's modern generation... ^ We all are depended on internet.... ! When it doesn't work, we get frustrated hahahah ... ! Have fun.

hartnn (hartnn):

make sure to check all the solution you get, by plugging them into original equation, and checking whether left side = right side. you will find that x= 3 is not a solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I wonder how my parents did engineering without internet yes @hartnn

mathslover (mathslover):

Oh yes.. 3 wouldn't be a soln @hartnn - you got a point.. gr8

mathslover (mathslover):

If there was no google / wiki -> all would have been playing out door games and having fun with friends RATHER THAN playing video games ... all would have been going to their friends/teachers to ask questions RATHER THAN openstudy..

mathslover (mathslover):

* no internet (not google/wiki :P )

Miracrown (miracrown):

wiki is not reliable!!!

Miracrown (miracrown):

Its not a reliable source, anyone can edit on it... so when looking for info you've always gotta look at other resources to ensure the info is valid.

mathslover (mathslover):

Nothing is reliable then...! What say?

Miracrown (miracrown):

Animals are reliable, many full of love, true in their affections, predictable in their actions, grateful and loyal. Difficult standards for people to live up to. =)

hartnn (hartnn):

if only animals can solve math :P

OpenStudy (dan815):

lol

mathslover (mathslover):

Humans are also animals... lol! WILD ANIMALS (btw, this is getting off-topic, lets discuss it in chats)

mathslover (mathslover):

No, last time I saw a lion solving Integral problem @hartnn ... he was almost there, hitting his heads hard at the ground ...

Miracrown (miracrown):

We have no reliable guarantee that the afterlife will be any less exasperating than this one, have we?

OpenStudy (dan815):

I once caught 2 stray kittens and tied rope around each one and gave one to my brother and we had kitten fights

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Animals can't solve modulus and logarithms

Parth (parthkohli):

You all are newbs.\[a^b = 1\]means\[a = 1\]and for all other cases\[b = 0\]

Miracrown (miracrown):

yessss elephants are one of the most intelligent animals around! :P

Parth (parthkohli):

So \(|x - 3| =1\) and for all other cases, \(3x^2 - 10x + 3 = 0\). No goofing up.

hartnn (hartnn):

parth, we got same thing by solving

OpenStudy (dan815):

yeah just look at ganeshie8

Parth (parthkohli):

Kewl.

Parth (parthkohli):

Why log though?

hartnn (hartnn):

because steps carry marks

Parth (parthkohli):

LOL

mathslover (mathslover):

Finally, my BSNL net worked ahaha

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