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OpenStudy (anonymous):

find the limit

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ \tan(x) -x}{ x^2 \tan(x) }\]

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

I expect you have to apply L'Hopital's rule at least two times, from what I did quick in my head. Sorry for not giving you more instruction. You're familiar with L'Hopital's Rule, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah! lemme try

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think one time Differentiating is enough.

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

I don't think so. I think if you apply the limit again, you'll get 0/0 again.

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sec^2(x) - 1}{x^2 \sec^2(x) + 2xtan(x)}\]

mathslover (mathslover):

I'm thinking for another method to do this.

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

;-; Probably would be helpful. I'm not seeing a good way.

mathslover (mathslover):

Hmm, well, LH rule is the best for such questions (0/0 form .. ) ....! But, I always love alternative methods ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cant do it. Can some one help. :(

mathslover (mathslover):

Saumya, where are you stuck?

mathslover (mathslover):

Are you okay with first time LH rule? : \(\color{blue}{\text{Originally Posted by}}\) @iPwnBunnies \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sec^2(x) - 1}{x^2 \sec^2(x) + 2xtan(x)}\] \(\color{blue}{\text{End of Quote}}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yea

hartnn (hartnn):

divide numerator and denominator by x

mathslover (mathslover):

@hartnn yeah, I tried that.

mathslover (mathslover):

I know, limit (x tends to zero) tanx/x = 1

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

Why don't I know that. ;-;

mathslover (mathslover):

you are still left with 0/0 ... limit(tanx/x - 1)/(xtanx)

hartnn (hartnn):

aah!

mathslover (mathslover):

\(\lim {x\rightarrow 0} \cfrac{(\tan x )/ x - 1}{x \tan x}\) again 0/0 ...

mathslover (mathslover):

LH rule will be the only solution, I think. @hartnn - any thoughts?

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

</3

mathslover (mathslover):

let us forget tan (x) for an instant. we have limit ( x tends to zero) ( y- x) / (x^2 y)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. then?

mathslover (mathslover):

No saumyaa.... not now! We're just trying to find another method (possibly easier one..) Till then, tell me what is the differentiation of sec^2 (x) w.r.t x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2 secx * sec x tan x

mathslover (mathslover):

Hmm! Right. SImilarly find the derivatives of the functions in the denominator.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hel anyone maybe?

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

You'd have to find the derivatives of the bottom. ;-; Derivative of x^2*sec^2(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but still. i am not able to do it. Answer is 1/3 Btw.

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0} \frac{2\sec^2 x \tan x}{x^2*2 \sec^2(x) \tan(x) + 2xsec^2(x) + 2xsec^2(x) + 2\tan(x)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah! I got this but do we have to put the limit or simplify further?

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

Oh my. ._. This limit is ugly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tanX common for Numerator and denominator?

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

It's not in all terms in the denominator. Give me a minute.

OpenStudy (ipwnbunnies):

Heh, from the solution I just saw. L'Hopital's was applied 3 times.

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