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OpenStudy (anonymous):

there are 5 men and 8 women available for a 5 person committee. Of the committee must have at least one man and one woman, how many possible committees are there?

hero (hero):

Since the committee must have at least 1 man and one woman the possibilities are 1 Men and 4 Women 2 Men and 3 Women 3 Men and 2 Women 4 Men and 1 Women Right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is found using nCr=nPr/r!?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is combinatorial because order/position/rank does not matter. so its 5C1 for men and 8C1 for women then you multiply the two answers i.e 5C1 * 8C1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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hero (hero):

Actually, @barkbark, did you figure out how to compute the correct result yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Hero Nope, thought that was correct but still am confused

hero (hero):

Since the committee must have at least 1 man and one woman the possibilities are 1 Men and 4 Women 2 Men and 3 Women 3 Men and 2 Women 4 Men and 1 Women In other words, for example since 5 men and 8 women are available then The number of possibilities for 1 Men and 4 Women can be computed by 5C1*8C4 The number of possibilities for 2 Men and 3 Women can be computed by 5C2*8C3 And so on. After finding the possibilities for each case, add them up to find the total number of possibilities.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hero im a fan lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh thank you I see now.

hero (hero):

You're welcome

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hero, your answer may not be right. I think you shouldn't add

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now I am confused....the textbook has an example similar to what @Myopeness is saying, Confused is 40 correct?

hero (hero):

Yes, you are confused. I don't know how much more I can do to help you except to tell you to read through what I have explained again and try to understand. At what point did you get confused concerning my explanation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Hero I was confused by the two conflicting answers/methods given. I obtained 640 not 40 for the answer using what you explained is that correct?

hero (hero):

Yes, the method that I explained is correct. I believe what @MyOpenNess explained to you was only an example. That's why he wrote i.e.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Hero Thank you again! Is it based upon the wording in the question? i.e --->The chorus of a play has 17 females and 13 males. The director wishes to meet with 6 of them to discuss the upcoming production. How many selections are possible if the group consists of three females and three males? So if I calculate 17C3*13C3 = 194 480 that is not the full answer?

hero (hero):

That looks right. It would be different calculation if they added "at least" somewhere in there.

hero (hero):

That's the difference between this question and the previous one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok thank you greatly! That is why I was confused. And the fact that I am not very bright apparently.

hero (hero):

You figured out the answer to the question so you're definitely on the right track. Just because every now and again you have to ask for help, that doesn't mean you aren't bright. Sometimes teachers/books do not explain every concept with the best possible clarity. Also sometimes mistakes are made. Unclarity and mistakes made while explaining concepts can lead to confusion. When concepts are unclear the first time you are introduced to them, it's always a great idea to get a second opinion.

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