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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Differential Equation problem.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(\sqrt{x}+x) dy/dx = (\sqrt{y}+y)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have tried different methods of integration but I might have to use substitution?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just trying to find an explicit solution y =

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes try \(u = 1+\sqrt{y}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Would have to take out a multiple of \[\sqrt{y}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yep !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large (\sqrt{x}+x) \dfrac{dy}{dx} = (\sqrt{y}+y)\] \[\large \dfrac{dy}{\sqrt{y}+y} = \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}+x}\] \[\large \dfrac{dy}{\sqrt{y}(1+\sqrt{y})} = \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}(1+\sqrt{x})}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[u = \sqrt{x} + 1\] \[du = 1/\sqrt{x} dx\] This step means i should take Sqrootx out of my integral?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

careful derivative of \(\sqrt{x}\) is \(\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \int \dfrac{dy}{\sqrt{y}(1+\sqrt{y})} = \int \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}(1+\sqrt{x})}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right forgot the 1/2 was there

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(u = 1+\sqrt{y} \implies du = \dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{y}} dy \implies 2du = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{y}} dy\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \int \dfrac{2du}{u} = \int \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}(1+\sqrt{x})}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

work out the right hand side same way ^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you very much it seems i was getting stuck with the algebra

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + c = 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right|\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Looks good !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\ln(\frac{ 1+\sqrt{y} }{ 1+\sqrt{x} })^2 = c\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(\frac{ 1+\sqrt{y} }{ 1+\sqrt{x} })^2 = e^c\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not sure on how to proceed to get this in terms y =

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

take sqrt both sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[e^c + x = y\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and keep in mind c is as arbitrary as e^c is...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[c_1 + x = \] Arbitrary C in mind

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lets start from here : \[2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + c = 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right|\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not sure why that is yet?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Alright, lets not do that. keep c as it is : \[\large 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + c = 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right| \] \[\large \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \dfrac{c}{2} = \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right| \] \[\large e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}} = 1+ \sqrt{y} \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

see if that looks okay so far ^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks good except for the left side its still as e^ln

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

its okay, subtract 1 both sides and square both sides - you will have your y

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

after that, you can simplify if you want...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[1+\sqrt{x} + e^{c/2} - 1 = \sqrt{y} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x + (e^{c/2})^2 = y\] Would this be my final answer?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}} = 1+ \sqrt{y}\] \[\large e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}}-1 = \sqrt{y}\] \[\large \left(e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}}-1\right)^2 = y\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplify the stuff inside parenthesis

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \left(e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| }e^{ \frac{c}{2}}-1\right)^2 = y\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \left((1+\sqrt{x})e^{ \frac{c}{2}}-1\right)^2 = y\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large \left(A(1+\sqrt{x})-1\right)^2 = y\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I see where I made my mistakes again, Thank you very much!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

np, you're welcome :)

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