Differential Equation problem.
\[(\sqrt{x}+x) dy/dx = (\sqrt{y}+y)\]
I have tried different methods of integration but I might have to use substitution?
Just trying to find an explicit solution y =
yes try \(u = 1+\sqrt{y}\)
Would have to take out a multiple of \[\sqrt{y}\]
Yep !
\[\large (\sqrt{x}+x) \dfrac{dy}{dx} = (\sqrt{y}+y)\] \[\large \dfrac{dy}{\sqrt{y}+y} = \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}+x}\] \[\large \dfrac{dy}{\sqrt{y}(1+\sqrt{y})} = \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}(1+\sqrt{x})}\]
\[u = \sqrt{x} + 1\] \[du = 1/\sqrt{x} dx\] This step means i should take Sqrootx out of my integral?
careful derivative of \(\sqrt{x}\) is \(\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{x}}\)
\[\large \int \dfrac{dy}{\sqrt{y}(1+\sqrt{y})} = \int \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}(1+\sqrt{x})}\]
Right forgot the 1/2 was there
\(u = 1+\sqrt{y} \implies du = \dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{y}} dy \implies 2du = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{y}} dy\)
\[\large \int \dfrac{2du}{u} = \int \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{x}(1+\sqrt{x})}\]
work out the right hand side same way ^
Thank you very much it seems i was getting stuck with the algebra
\[2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + c = 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right|\]
Looks good !
\[\ln(\frac{ 1+\sqrt{y} }{ 1+\sqrt{x} })^2 = c\]
\[(\frac{ 1+\sqrt{y} }{ 1+\sqrt{x} })^2 = e^c\]
Not sure on how to proceed to get this in terms y =
take sqrt both sides
\[e^c + x = y\]
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and keep in mind c is as arbitrary as e^c is...
\[c_1 + x = \] Arbitrary C in mind
lets start from here : \[2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + c = 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right|\]
Not sure why that is yet?
Alright, lets not do that. keep c as it is : \[\large 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + c = 2 \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right| \] \[\large \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \dfrac{c}{2} = \ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{y} \right| \] \[\large e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}} = 1+ \sqrt{y} \]
see if that looks okay so far ^
looks good except for the left side its still as e^ln
its okay, subtract 1 both sides and square both sides - you will have your y
after that, you can simplify if you want...
\[1+\sqrt{x} + e^{c/2} - 1 = \sqrt{y} \]
\[x + (e^{c/2})^2 = y\] Would this be my final answer?
\[\large e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}} = 1+ \sqrt{y}\] \[\large e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}}-1 = \sqrt{y}\] \[\large \left(e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| + \frac{c}{2}}-1\right)^2 = y\]
simplify the stuff inside parenthesis
\[\large \left(e^{\ln \left| 1+ \sqrt{x} \right| }e^{ \frac{c}{2}}-1\right)^2 = y\]
\[\large \left((1+\sqrt{x})e^{ \frac{c}{2}}-1\right)^2 = y\]
\[\large \left(A(1+\sqrt{x})-1\right)^2 = y\]
Oh I see where I made my mistakes again, Thank you very much!
np, you're welcome :)
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