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OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

@jim_thompson5910 http://cyh.leeschools.net/UserContent/Documents/AP%20CalcBC%20SumAssign%2014-15.pdf So if I was paying you Florida minimum wage for you helping me with AP Calc BC so far, I'd owe you probably around $50 :P Add it to your invoice. Ha.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

lol it's fine, I think we left off on 86?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Sisisi

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

able to get started on it? or no?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

No way haha. I'm pretty much lost on the rest of all these questions hah

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

are you able to use a calculator on this part?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

because it will help to get a visual of the region that forms the base

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

"Do the attached Multiple Choice Questions. Section I is with NO Calculator and you may use a calculator for Section II." But he told us in class you can make calculations but he doesn't want us graphing anything

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok, so you'll have to visually keep in mind what arctan looks like

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

So yes I can use one this is the 2nd section of part one (after 76 is section 2)

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

We just could not use one on section 1 part 1 (only for calculations) But I can graph things in section 2 of part 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you help me with a question

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh so you're able to graph on 86?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Would you like me to graph the tan^-1 y=3 and x=1?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Yes I am

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes please

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Okay I watched it

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

graphed it* oops haha I was talking to my cousin about watching tv so I put watched instead of graphed... Shoulda had a V8.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well graphs are visual like tv, so you can watch a graph too

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so do you see the region that forms the base?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

This is true :P Okay what to do next? Guide me O'wise 1

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

No I'm the worst visualizer haha

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Is it where x and y meet?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

At (1,3)?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you should have this

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the region in green is the region that forms the base

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Yes I see that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

unfortunately I'm getting a function that can't be integrated by hand...hmm

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Well you can use a calculator

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

What do you mean by "getting a function" ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Pick any x value between 0 and 1. The vertical distance from the point (x,y) on y = arctan(x) to y = 3 is 3 - arctan(x) So this is the side length of the square The area of the cross section square is (3 - arctan(x))^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So we will integrate (3 - arctan(x))^2 from 0 to 1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

In other words, compute \[\Large \int_{0}^{1} (3 - \arctan(x))^2 dx\]

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Yeah but unfortunately my calculator is dead lol

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

I keep forgetting to buy triple A batteries Plus I'm getting a new calculator soon, one I can actually charge and it up to date with the technology so yiy

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

& is up to date*

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

That's good. In the meantime, you can use a calculator like wolfram alpha since it's very good at calculus.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integral%28+%283-arctan%28x%29%29%5E2%2Cx%3D0..1+%29 I typed in "integral( (3-arctan(x))^2,x=0..1 )" without quotes

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Am I supposed to get a number or something?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah it's at the very end/right side

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Oh alright I see it. 6.612

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

For 87 I have to take the 2nd derivative right?

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

In which case use the quotient rule

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yes, so derive f ' to get f ''

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

This will be tedious haha one second

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

agreed, but you can do it

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Just checking but I add exponents when I multiply right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if you mean like x^2*x^3 = x^(2+3) = x^5, then yeah

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Okay I'm going to upload a file, I'm stuck :P

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

go for it

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Not sure how to combine the rest of the numerator lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let me check your work

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Okie dokie

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it is incorrect

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Ughhhhh what did I do wrong

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

still looking through and trying to spot it

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

You can ask me questions too

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

You should have this \[\Large \frac{x^{1/2}}{1+x+x^3} = x^{1/2}(1+x+x^3)^{-1}\] but I don't see that step

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

What why? I used the quotient rule?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh gotcha

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I was going to use the product rule

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Oh I can do that

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Probably would be easier lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the good news is that your first line is correct i think you just made a silly error in simplifying

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Oh okay good because idk how to do this one with the product rule, only quotient

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Okay so where is the mistake/up to where is right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well any time you have a fraction like f(x)/g(x) you can rewrite that as a product f(x)/g(x) = f(x) * [g(x)]^(-1) and then use the product rule

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

anyways, I'm checking your other lines

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

On the 2nd line I meant for it to be x^5/2/2

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

The numerator I should have: \[f''(x)=\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }x ^{-1/2}+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }x ^{1/2}+\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }x ^{5/2}-x ^{1/2}-3x ^{3/2}\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and that 3/2 should be 5/2 since 2 + 1/2 = 5/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

also, you should change that 5/2 to 3/2 somehow you got the two switched

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Oh right I gotcha so I'm right and the last one should be -3x^5/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

here's all I could spot so far

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

OKAY SO\[\frac{ \frac{ 1 }{ 2\sqrt{x}}+\frac{\sqrt{x} }{ 2}+\frac{ x ^{5/2} }{ 2}-\sqrt{x}-3x ^{5/2}}{ (1+x+x^3)^2 }\]

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

No the 1st red one should be x^5/2/2 because -1/2+3 AKA -1/2+6/2=5/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh right, I guess it looked very close on my graph that I didn't think twice about it

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Okay so now how would I simplify that?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I would multiply top and bottom by \(\Large \sqrt{x}\)

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Can I ask why? :P

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well you can multiply by 1 and it won't change the expression

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and you have sqrt(x) in the denominator (of one fraction in the numerator) and you have other expressions that also have sqrt(x) in them so the natural thing to do is to multiply everything by sqrt(x) to see how many radical terms go away I'm taking advantage of the fact that sqrt(x)*sqrt(x) = ( sqrt(x) )^2 = x when x >= 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and whenever you have a fraction within a fraction, one trick is to multiply every term by the inner LCD to clear out the inner fractions

OpenStudy (marissalovescats):

Yeah I'll be honest, I don't know how to do that. Lol.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Example |dw:1402869205071:dw|

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