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OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is wrong with this strong mathematical induction proof?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (perl):

whats wrong is that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am a little lost with this second principle of induction :s

OpenStudy (perl):

so you want help with this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes please :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am thinking it has something to do with K = 0 being the first nonnegative interget

OpenStudy (perl):

this is a good place to start, with the definition of strong induction http://mathcircle.berkeley.edu/BMC4/Handouts/induct/node6.html

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For strong induction, you need to know that all the rungs below the rung you are on are solid in order to step up

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So it fails at 0!!! right?

OpenStudy (perl):

well , not exactly

OpenStudy (perl):

step 2 : Let k be any integer greater than or equal to zero. then for 0 <= j <= k assume that P(k) is true

OpenStudy (perl):

step 2 : Let k be any integer greater than or equal to zero. then for all integers j such that 0 <= j <= k assume that P(k) is true

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Fails step 2

OpenStudy (perl):

i dont see how it fails step 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

j = -1 when k = 0

OpenStudy (perl):

so step 3d) when it says a^(k-1) , when k = 0 we have a problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes. I am not too sure why tho

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think it is because it can't just be part of it

OpenStudy (perl):

basically in this strong induction we have suppose k > = 0 and that P(0), P(1),... P(k) is true show that P(k+1) is true

OpenStudy (perl):

when k = 0, thats not a problem since we already checked that a^0 = 1 , so we actually have

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm so what is the problem then?

OpenStudy (perl):

maybe you are right, that inductive step seems odd if we plug in k = 0

OpenStudy (perl):

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