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OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Derivative!

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

If a rock is thrown upward on the planet Mars with a velocity of 19 m/s, its height (in meters) after t seconds is given by H = 19t − 1.86t2. (a) Find the velocity of the rock after two seconds.

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

My plan? Find the derivative at the point x=2. Sound good?

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Is this good???\[19(2+h)-1.86(2+h)^2-[19(2)-1.86(2)^2]\]

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the numerator looks good ^ there is also a h in the bottom right ?

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

All over h!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

nice, go ahead carry out ur plan :)

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Thanks man! There are other parts to this, when I complete this one, will you help guide me through the rest?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

I'll try...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Also you need to put a limit ^

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Yes! Thanks! If a rock is thrown upward on the planet Mars with a velocity of 19 m/s, its height (in meters) after t seconds is given by H = 19t − 1.86t2. (a) Find the velocity of the rock after two seconds. m/s (b) Find the velocity of the rock when t = a. m/s (c) When will the rock hit the surface? (Round your answer to one decimal place.) t = s (d) With what velocity will the rock hit the surface? m/s

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Why is it as h approaches 0 and not 2?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no wait a second

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Why did you take out the 2+h? How do I know to do x+h, 1+h, or 2+h? I am self taught in this class.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Okay looks you're using the other definition of derivative. Can you do me a favor ? - scratch everything above ^ lets start over...

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Yes. I am familiar with that. Here is a ?. In what case do you use that definition and when do you use my definition?

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Ok!

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Yes. Totally got that. Now the ? is (what+h)

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Whats wrong with the one I posted above?

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

19(2+h)−1.86(2+h)2−[19(2)−1.86(2)2] all over h

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

you're mixing both the definitions

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lets first decide on the definition to use :/

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Let me show you what my online prof and webassign gave me to use:

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, we have two definitions. pick one

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

To the right.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

good, H(t) = 19t − 1.86t2. compute : H(t+h) - H(t)

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Sure thing: \[19+19h-1.86(h^2+2ht+t^2)-[19t+1.86t^2]\] all over h

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Carrying on...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large H'(t) = \lim \limits_{h\to 0 } \dfrac{H(t+h) - H(t)}{h}\] \[\large = \lim \limits_{h\to 0 } \dfrac{19(t+h) - 1.86(t+h)^2 - [19t-1.86t^2]}{h}\] \[\large = \lim \limits_{h\to 0 } \dfrac{19h - 1.86(2ht) - 1.86h^2}{h}\] \[\large = \lim \limits_{h\to 0 } \dfrac{h\left(19 - 1.86(2t) - 1.86h\right)}{h}\] \[\large = \lim \limits_{h\to 0 }~ 19 - 1.86(2t) - 1.86h\] \[\large = 19 - 1.86(2t)\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

So \(\large H'(t) = 19 - 1.86(2t)\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

plugin t = 2, to get the velocity after 2 seconds ^

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Thanks! Can you show me how you just got (2ht) for your third step? I thought it was (t+h)(t+h) or t^2+2ht+h^2? Did you just omit a step?

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

My question is, I got 19+-1.86H^2-3.72HT. Where did you get the latter to cancel?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes i din't show u a step !

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large = \lim \limits_{h\to 0 } \dfrac{19(t+h) - 1.86(t+h)^2 - [19t-1.86t^2]}{h}\] \[\large = \lim \limits_{h\to 0 } \dfrac{19(t+h) - 1.86(t^2 +2ht+h^2) - [19t-1.86t^2]}{h}\]

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Ok, so \[19t+19h-1.86t^2-3.72ht-1.86h^2-19t+1.86t^2\]

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

\[19h-3.72ht-1.86h^2\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, you can cancel out few terms ^

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes !

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

Where can I cancel 3.72ht! (last question lol)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

factor out \(h\) first..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

and cancel both the h's on top and bottom

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

(19-3.72t-1.8h)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes ! take the limit by putting h = 0

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

19-3.72t

OpenStudy (amtran_bus):

*pulls out hair*

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