x^2-5x-14
This is a quadratic equation. So we need to use the quadratic formula. Do you know how to use it?
no
@jcpd910
Okay, I'll walk you through it.
\[x = \frac{ -b \sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{ 2a }\]
That's the quadratic formula. Looks daunting right?
can u show ur steps on how to solve? @jcpd910
Of course, it's not that hard. Here's your equation: ax^2 + bx + c = 0 x^2 - 5x - 14 So tell me what a, b, and c are. It's okay if you can't, I'll show you how if you don't know.
i honestly don't know @jcpd910
Okay, that's fine. Can you tell me what number x^2 has in front of it?
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x^2 = 1x^2
ohhh
It's confusing but then you get it ik :)
ax^2 + bx + c = 0 1x^2 - 5x - 14 = 0 Do you see it now?
yes
what do i do next
tell me the values of a, b, and c.
a=1,b=5,c=14
Almost, but you see how it says - 5 and - 14?
oh okay!
Subtracting is just adding a negative number: 1 - 1 = 1 + (-1)
So what are the values?
what do i do? subtract 1-5-14?
No, haha, I wish it were that easy. One second bbrb
I'm back
Now that you have the values, you plug them into the equation. emc can I take this one please?
@jcpd910 there is no = so it is not an equation. Now, if the instructions say to factor it, you can assume it is one that is set to 0.
Oops, e.m is right. Sorry about that lub. How do we solve it then e.m?
Well, does it need to be factored or what? It is just sort of there.
That's why I assumed it was = 0 for a quadratic, I didn't think to just factor it out though.
it needs to be factored
Yah. Depends on if you need roots, need to factor, or what. Those are closely related things, but the answers are slightly different.
and on a totally unrelated note, how do u become a moderator?
\(Ax^2+By+C\) factored to some sort of \((x\pm m)(x\pm n)\) When A = 1, which yours does, there is a little logic: If C is positive, both m and n have the same sign. If C is negative, m and n have different signs. If B is positive, the larger or both of m and n must be positive. If B is negative, the larger or both of m and n must be negative. You can google up becoming an openstudy moderators. We have talked about it lots of times in feedback.
OK, so, lets look at yours: \(x^2-5x-14\) Both B and C are negative. So these two rules: If C is negative, m and n have different signs. If B is negative, the larger or both of m and n must be negative. Now for the other little thing you want to find.
You want two numbers, I called them m and n, that multiply to become C and add to become B. So \(mn=-14\) and \(m+n=-5\) That means you can factor 14 different ways to get possible answers.
I assume that to become a moderator you have to be helpful, positive, and don't ask for moderator. That's normally how it works. :)
\(1\times 14=14\) If the larger must be negative, that would be \(1\times -14=-14\) BUT: \(1+(-14)=-13\) so those are not your factors. They fit one result but not the other.
omg i get it i get it! i know the answer!!
thanks so much for y'all help!
Wait, the quadratic formula wouldn't have worked but we can still factor?
Hehe. OK, I think you see it now. What do you think it is?
can i give medals to both or just one person
Give it to me, I gave one to e.m
The quadratic would. It is just that you need to flip the sign when you plug them into the factors.
(x+2)(x-7)
Yes. That is the answer.
bingo.
Here is the quadratic method for reference. \(x = \dfrac{ -b \pm\sqrt{b^{2}-4ac}}{ 2a }\) \(x = \dfrac{ -(-5)\pm \sqrt{(-5)^{2}-4(1)(-14)}}{ 2(1) }\) \(x = \dfrac{ 5 \pm \sqrt{25+56}}{ 2 }\) \(x = \dfrac{ 5 \pm \sqrt{81}}{ 2 }\) \(x = \dfrac{ 5 \pm 9}{ 2 }\) so \(x = \dfrac{ 5 + 9}{ 2 }\) and \(x = \dfrac{ 5 - 9}{ 2 }\) \(x = \dfrac{ 14}{ 2 }\) and \(x = \dfrac{ -4}{ 2 }\) \(x = 7\) and \(x = -2\) But in factored form you move them over to multiply: \(x - 7=0\) and \(x + 2=0\) \((x - 7)(x + 2)\)
Now you can see why a little logic for factoring can save you a lot of work over using that all the time!
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