Can someone help me please ??! :)
@UnkleRhaukus
Using the following equation, find the center and radius of the circle. You must show all work and calculations to receive credit. x2 + 2x + y2 + 4y = 20
use `completing the square` method
Yes
complete the square on the x terms first x^2 + 2x = (x+ )^2 +
Right so far I got the first two steps down its the third step that is confusing me.
A circle centred at \((a,b)\), with radius \(r\) has the form \[(x-a)^2 + (y-b)^2 =r^2\]
This is what i've been using to help me
yeah it's just like that
Right the part Im really confused on is step 3 and down
@goformit100
How can I help you ?
Using the following equation, find the center and radius of the circle. You must show all work and calculations to receive credit. x2 + 2x + y2 + 4y = 20
I need help how to use " completing the square method "
You think you could help me @goformit100
if you had \[z^2+6z\] completing the square goes like this \[(z+a)^2=z^2+2ax+a^2\] \[z^2+6z +9= (z+3)^2\] so \[z^2+6z= (z+3)^2-9\] So halve the z coefficient , and put that in the brackets for a, then because the number term is missing , take it away form both sides
So to complete the square on the x terms first x^2 + 2x what is the x coefficient ? what is half of this ?
you cant get much more help than that \(\large \uparrow\)
Im not really sure
\(\color{brown}{This}\) term is the x coefficient \[x^2 + \color{brown}2x \] Because it is the number x is multiplied by
ohh ok
This is so far what I have
x2 + 2x + y2 + 4y = 20 (x2 + 2x) + (y2 + 4y) = 20 (x2+2x-1)+(y2+4y-2) = 20 + 20+1 (x2+2x-1) + (y2+4y-2) = 41
nope, the idea is you want the terms in those brackets to be perfect squares (x^2+2x-1) is not a perfect square but (x^2+2x+1) is , because is equals (x+1)^2
(y^2+4y-2) is not a perfect square either
sorry, I'm really not good at this. Could you please explain to me what I do for step three in-depth?
Start with just these terms x^2 + 2ax Find the x coefficient; (a) then halve this; (a/2) x^2 + 2ax + a^2 = (x+a)^2 so x^2 + 2ax = (x+a)^2-a^2
step 3 take the coefficient of the term in x divide by 2 then square that number. that is the number you are adding to the inside of the quadratic so that it can be factored. since you are adding this amount to this side of the equation you need to add it to the other side as well. follow the same process for the section with the y group let me see what you have
@UnkleRhaukus thank you @Rubio101 post what you have
x2 + 2x + y2 + 4y = 20 (x2 + 2x) + (y2 + 4y) = 20
Thats what I have Im not if im right or not.
*sure
(x^2 + 2x) + (y^2 + 4y) = 20 is right so far , now you have to complete the squares
now follow the directions in the post that says step 3
(x2+2x-1)+(y2+4y-2)=20+(20+1)
Thats what I have is that right?
@UnkleRhaukus Find the x coefficient; (a) then halve this; (a/2) x^2 + 2ax + a^2 = (x+a)^2 coefficient is 2a when in half =1/2*2a = a
*ops, thanks for spotting that error of mine @triciaal
@Rubio101 you are adding +1 and +4
\(x^2+ax+y^2+by=c\\(x+\frac{a}{2})^2+(y+\frac{y}{2})^2=c+(\frac{a}{2})^2+(\frac{b}{2})^2\)
figure out what a,b are and you are done....
and c....
it should be painfully obvious that a = 2, b=4, and c=20
its always positive because when you square a -ve the result is +ve and when you multiply +ve the result is +ve
I get it now. Thank you all. sorry if i was a bother
on the right hand side you are adding +1 and +4
it's ok you are not a bother we are here to help
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