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OpenStudy (precal):

Calculus - Inverse of a derivative-using table values

OpenStudy (precal):

OpenStudy (precal):

Find the value of \[\left[ f ^{^{-1}}(2) \right]'\]

OpenStudy (precal):

I got 3 but I am not sure that is the correct solution

OpenStudy (precal):

@ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

lets do a quick+easy derivation

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we start with : \[f^{-1}(f(x)) = x\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

differentiate both sides using chain rule : \[\left(f^{-1}(f(x))\right)' = \left(x\right)'\]

OpenStudy (precal):

remember that is how we test if functions are truly inverses

OpenStudy (precal):

so ganeshie8 is correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah, I got it haha.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large [ f^{-1}(f(x))]' f'(x) = 1\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large [ f^{-1}(f(x))]' = \dfrac{1}{f'(x)}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

see if that looks okay.. @precal @iambatman

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

actually there is a mistake..

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large [ f^{-1}(f(x))]' = \dfrac{1}{f'(x)}\] when f(x) = 2, x = 1 \[\large [ f^{-1}(2)]' = \dfrac{1}{f'(1)} = \dfrac{1}{3}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that should work ^ please check...

OpenStudy (precal):

ok I like the way you explained it. I was always given the formula but I had no idea how it was derived

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah that seems right, I was just looking at where you got you got x = 1, but it's from the chart haha.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes :)

OpenStudy (precal):

ok lets see if I did the second one correct\[\left[ g ^{-1} (1)\right]'\]

OpenStudy (precal):

is it -2

OpenStudy (precal):

can you check that for me @Iambatman

OpenStudy (precal):

@iambatman

OpenStudy (precal):

sorry computer capitalized the i

OpenStudy (precal):

@ganeshie8 Will you please help me with another question? It is related to the same table?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

sure, ill try.. btw -2 is right..

OpenStudy (precal):

Find the equation of the line tangent to the graph of g' when x=-2 if g'(-2)=2/3 Thanks, you were a great teacher that is why I got it correct

OpenStudy (precal):

I know the slope I am to use is 2/3 but I am not sure what point I am to use since x=-2 is not on the table

OpenStudy (precal):

I know the given slope tells me that the function is increasing because it is positive but I do not know what to use

OpenStudy (precal):

do I use (1,-2)?

OpenStudy (precal):

y+2=(2/3)(x-1)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

g' is the original function, (-2, 2/3) is a point we need to find the slope g''(-2)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

... slope of g' is g''

OpenStudy (precal):

How am I going to do that?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

is that all the information given ?

OpenStudy (precal):

I guess I am still assuming g is the original function of g' since I was given the table but you probably are on the correct path

OpenStudy (precal):

yes with the same table

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

not sure how we can compute g''(-2) from the table :/

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@ikram002p wanna try

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is the table the only thing you're given?

OpenStudy (precal):

yes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Here is the complete question : `Find the equation of the line tangent to the graph of g' when x=-2 if g'(-2)=2/3` use below table : http://assets.openstudy.com/updates/attachments/53aec82fe4b02c45b015a24c-precal-1403963562053-doc2.pdf

OpenStudy (precal):

and I am told g'(-2) =2/3

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lol is there a graph?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

(-2, 2/3) is a point on g' so the tangent line will be : y - 2/3 = m(x+2) we need to find m

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

m = g''(-2)

OpenStudy (precal):

no, sorry just table of data given. This is AP calculus btw so they tend to try to confuse you

OpenStudy (precal):

I thought 2/3 is the m value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2/3 is the slope of the tangent line

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you're right

OpenStudy (precal):

but I am missing the point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

slope of the tangent line = derivative

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

if g' is linear then we might have two point and find the slope ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

slope at g(a) is g'(a) slope at g'(a) is g''(a)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

careful, we're trying to find the tangent line of the graph g', NOT g

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Bleh right

OpenStudy (precal):

can't we just use 2 points to calculate that slope?

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

yeah but u have (-3 ,-1/2) (1 ,-2) (2, -6)

OpenStudy (precal):

g'(1) and g'(-3) since -2 is between

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

but mm i cant assume that is correct unless g' is linear

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

that gives you slope of secant line, but the question is asking us to find the slope of tangent line

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

then lets try , definition of tangent / derivative ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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