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OpenStudy (anonymous):

An observer (O) is located 500 feet from a school (S). The observer notices a bird (B) flying at a 39° angle of elevation from his line of sight. What equation and trigonometric function can be used to solve for the height (h) of the bird? What is the height of the bird? Pick another trigonometric function and describe why that function is not appropriate when trying to solve for (h). You must show all work and calculations to receive full credit.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@saifoo.khan can you please help me with this question?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Do you know the trigonometric ratios?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Which ratio contains opposite and adjacent of the angle?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tangent?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

am i correct?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Yes. Try applying.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tan (39) = OB/OS?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay :) so what do i do next?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Insert the value of OS and solve for OB.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how can i do that? can you plz help me? or at least give hints?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

OS is 500.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

And BS is h.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so what do u want me to do now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so u want me to say tan (39) = x/y x for OB and y for OS?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

tan(39) = h/500 h is what we have to find.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok now u want me to get h by itself?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

h = 500 tan(39)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly so that'll be the final answer?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Use a calc to solve.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay give me on sec @saifoo.khan

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got h = 404.892

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's all i had to do?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you please help me put everything we said together in complete sentences?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@saifoo.khan

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Refer to the calculations using Mathematica 9.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i need help putting all the work shown here together in complete sentences

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you please help anyone? @tHe_FiZiCx99 @robtobey

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@saifoo.khan

OpenStudy (anonymous):

From the sketch provided, the bird's height is 500 times the tangent of 39 degrees. 500 times the secant of 39 degrees yields the length of the slant range between the observer and the bird and not the bird's height.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

doesn't sound like anything we just did nvm. i'll get help from @saifoo.khan

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

@shinebrightlikeadimon : he's doing it right. Just try to elaborate things and write it here. And we will correct you if wrong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay i will :) thanks and also ramadan mubarak lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@shinebrightlikeadimon I think we are making a mountain out of a mole hole here.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Haha. Kher Mubarak. #iftaaaaaarrriii

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahaha yep! lol idk what to write for this one pick another trigonometric function and describe why that function is not appropriate when trying to solve for (h). can you please help? @saifoo.khan

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Pick another function. Like let's say sin. And then tell why you can't use the sin function here.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahah cute story.. idk why xD

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Lol.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

HELP! lol

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

TRY!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can't i dont know stuff about sin and cos i just learned about all this.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Sine ratio? Cos ratio? No?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sine = opposite/hypotenuse and cosine = adjacent/hypotenuse

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Can you use sin instead of tan?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cuz sine u find for opposite and hypotenuse but for tangent u find for opposite and adjacent?? i'm just guessing

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Do you know the value of hypotenuse?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Then how can use sin?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm soooo confused!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just telll me whyy and i'll remember why

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

When you use the ratios, you MUST know two values to find the third one. Like in the case of tan, you had 39 and 500 AND you had to find the third one. So now, when using sin/cos, you know the angle, but you don't know the hypotenuse to find h. \[\sin39 = \frac{h}{hypotenuse}, \cos39 = \frac{500}{hypotenuse}\] In sin, you don't know both. In cos, there's no h which is your gial.

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

goal*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhhh okaaayyy i did not know that thank you so much!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can u check my work with the complete senteces and why we cant use different trigonometric ratios?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

To find the height of the bird i had to use to trigonometric ratio tangent to solve for it which in this case is: tan (39) = OB/OS and now we plug in everything that's given to us and get tan (39) = h/500 and h is what we have to find. Now, we have to get h by itself and it'll look like h = 500 tan (39), and h = 404.892

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and then i just have to add how different functions wouldn't work?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@saifoo.khan

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much! you;re really good. Will u be able to help me with 4 more at least?

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

About to leave. #EshanNamaz

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oohhh okay haha one last question when you said in sin u dont know both? what did u mean by that? whats both?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@saifoo.khan

OpenStudy (saifoo.khan):

sin = opp/hyp By both I meant, the value opposite and the value of hypotenuse.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okkk! jazakallah

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