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OpenStudy (precal):

Rolle's Theorem and Mean Value Theorem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

very nice theorems those

OpenStudy (precal):

OpenStudy (precal):

sorry had to upload the graph, I just need someone to double check my thinking here

OpenStudy (precal):

Rolle's Thm: I have to check 3 conditions: 1) Is the function continuous on [a,b] 2) Is the function differentiable on (a,b) 3) f(a)=f(b) ?

OpenStudy (precal):

Problem 19 fails Rolle's Theorem because it is not continuous on [a,b] at x=-3 correct?

OpenStudy (precal):

so for problem 19, Rolle's Theorem does not apply.

OpenStudy (precal):

For problem 20, Rolle's Theorem does not apply because function is not differentiable at x=-1 (ie a cusp - I believe)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

OpenStudy (precal):

Am I correct for both?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes nothing applies on that interval

OpenStudy (precal):

ok now Mean Value Thm. Let me go review that theorem, need a moment

OpenStudy (precal):

ok I found \[\frac{ f(b)-f(a) }{ b-a }=\frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\]

OpenStudy (precal):

not sure what f'(c) is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The MVT says there's a \(c\) such that \(f'(c)\) is equal to the slope you found. So \(f'(c)=\dfrac{1}{3}\).

OpenStudy (precal):

but am I to find the value of c?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Correct. The pdf isn't loading properly for me, so I can't make out all the details, but ideally you're given a function \(f(x)\). You would take the derivative and find \(f'(x)\), then evaluate it at \(c\). Then you can solve for \(c\) by setting it equal to \(\dfrac{1}{3}\).

OpenStudy (precal):

I was given a graph of a piecewise function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right, I see the plot. Hmm... if you're not given an explicit form for \(f(x)\), you should be able to make one from the picture. As near as I can tell, the function is something like \[f(x)=\begin{cases}(x+3)^2+5&\text{for }x<-3,~-3<x\le-1\\3&\text{for }x=-3\\ \sqrt{x+1}+1&\text{for }x>-1\end{cases}\]

OpenStudy (precal):

yes you are correct about that function I was just about to type it

OpenStudy (precal):

well I can just take the derivative of it. I am just afraid that the test will not give me a nice function and just a graph

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Any derivatives you take won't be too bad, but you have to be a bit careful about taking the derivative of a piecewise function like this one. The derivative won't exist at points where the function is discontinuous.

OpenStudy (precal):

ok c is 5/4

OpenStudy (precal):

ok I checked it and is it true. Good thing we have graphing calculators......

OpenStudy (precal):

and Open Study

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let's see... over [-1,8], \(f(x)=\sqrt{x+1}+1\), then \(f'(x)=\dfrac{1}{2\sqrt{x+1}}\). \[f'(c)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{c+1}}=\frac{1}{3}~~\Rightarrow~~c=\frac{5}{4}\] It's correct!

OpenStudy (precal):

Thanks, that is what I did on my paper. Sorry, I am not too well verse with Latex or too fond of using the equation editor on this site.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You're welcome. I'm glad the site support Latex in the first place

OpenStudy (precal):

one day I will learn Latex.......one day

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