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OpenStudy (kanwal32):
The sum of first n terms of the series 1^2+2.2^2+3^2+2.4^2.........is n(n+1)^2, when n is even. When n is odd
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OpenStudy (kanwal32):
the sum is
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
@Queen_Bee1 this is the question
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ohhh ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
well i got 20.6
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
no but we have to represent the answer in terms of n
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OpenStudy (kanwal32):
@wio help
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What exactly is the sequence?
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
\[1^{2}+2.2^{2} + 3^{2}+2.4^{2}.......\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
2.2?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
What is the sequence in terms of \(n\)?
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OpenStudy (kanwal32):
sum is n(n+1)^2/2 when n is even we have to fnd when n is odd
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok, if \(n\) is odd, then it is just \(S_{n+1} - a_n\)
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
ok
OpenStudy (anonymous):
And \(S_{n+1}\) is even, so you can use your formula.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
When \(n\) is odd, it seems \(a_n\) is \(n^2\).
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Does that help you?
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
can u pls write the equation
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You want a direct answer?
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Okay, plug \(n+1\) into the answer for the even sum. Then subtract \(n^2\). That is the answer.
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OpenStudy (kanwal32):
pls can u write direct answer
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I'm too lazy.
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
pls
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[
\frac{(n+1)((n+1)+1)^2}2 - n^2\]
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
but the answer is \[n^2(n+1)/2\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
wait a moment, is that the answer for even or odd?
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
for odd
OpenStudy (anonymous):
hmmm, well mine needs to be simplified.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that or the even formula was wrong?
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
is that giving the same
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh wait. I think I should have done \(-a_{n+1}\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so \(-2n^2\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Eh, I didn't put a lot of thought into it.
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
@ganeshie8 PLS HELP
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
i think wio's method is using triangular numbers, and after representing the nth term you need to find the sum...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
My method is finding the sum for \(n+1\), since we know the even sum, and then just subtracting the last \(n+1\) term, to get the \(n\) sum.
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
Oh okay... looks i misinterpreted the solution
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[
S_n = S_{n+1}-a_{n+1}
\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
If \(n\) is odd then\(n+1\) is even. We know how to do the even sum. That was my logic.
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
wow! yes last term is tricky, got you :)
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OpenStudy (kanwal32):
got u @wio
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
this question Is a bit tricky and I have a test ON 6TH
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
can any 1 write the solution
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
pls
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
@dan815 @hartnn @ganeshie8 @ParthKohli @batmann
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
did u get wio's logic ?
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
yes
Parth (parthkohli):
is this the series?\[1^2 + (2\times 2^2) + 3^2 + (2\times 4^2)\cdots\]
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
no I have written thee series above
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
You're given a formula which works when \(n\) is even :
\[\large 1^2+2.2^2+3^2+2.4^2 + \cdots + 2.n^2= n(n+1)^2 \]
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OpenStudy (kanwal32):
yes
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
its
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
and you're trying to find a formula that works when \(n\) is odd :
\[\large 1^2+2.2^2+3^2+2.4^2 + \cdots + 2.(n-1)^2 + n^2 = ? \]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
write it like this
(1^2+2^2+3^2+...+n^2) + (2^2+4^2+6^2+...n^2)
Now, try to find the sum.
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
yes
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Parth (parthkohli):
\[= (1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2 + \cdots n^2) + (2^2 + 4^2 + 6^2\cdots n
^2)\]
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
we're already given the formula for sum when "n" is even
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
yeah
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
we just need to use it and deduce a formula for odd "n"
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
ok
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
which was exactly what @wio did above ^
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
thnx @ganeshie8 @wio
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
if you have it like this
\(\sum_{n=1}^n n(n+1)^2 \)
why you need to find odd /even ?
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
let me rewrite the wio's solution again in one reply
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
or this is what your qn asking for ?
how to find sum when n is odd and find the sum when n is even ?
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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
\[\large \color{red}{1^2+2.2^2+3^2+2.4^2 + \cdots + 2.(n-1)^2} + n^2 \]
\[\large \color{red}{\dfrac{(n-1)(n-1+1)^2}{2}}+ n^2 \]
\[\large \color{red}{\dfrac{(n-1)(n)^2}{2}}+ n^2 \]
\[\large \color{red}{\dfrac{(n-1)(n)^2 + 2n^2}{2}}\]
\[\large \color{red}{\dfrac{n^2(n+1)}{2}}\]
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
ikram : we're given a formula for `even n`, our job is to deduce the formula for `odd n`
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
thnx for u support every1
OpenStudy (ikram002p):
oh , ic ^^
for once get confused
ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):
lol same wid me, i went straight for the proof before wio hinting me
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OpenStudy (ikram002p):
huh
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
ok
OpenStudy (kanwal32):
should I close the problem