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OpenStudy (precal):

Definite Integral Can I do this by substitution?

OpenStudy (precal):

\[\int\limits_{1}^{5}\frac{ x }{ \sqrt{2x-1} }dx\]

OpenStudy (precal):

I don't think I can use substitution to ingrate this one but my directions are to do so.

OpenStudy (precal):

I can't use integral by parts since it is not taught in this course

OpenStudy (precal):

I can just integrate using my calculator

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

You could use \(u=2x-1\) so \(du=2 dx\) Solve for x to get: \(\Large x=\frac{u+1}{2}\) @ganeshie8 ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats a good idea ! also u may try u = \(\sqrt{2x-1}\) also, not sure...

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(du = \dfrac{2dx}{\sqrt{2x-1}} \implies \dfrac{dx}{\sqrt{2x-1}} = \dfrac{du}{2}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

the indefinite integral becomes \[ \large \dfrac{1}{2}\int u^2 + 1~ du \]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

1/4 *

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

You could also plug in the x-limits into the u-sub equation to get the integral in terms of u instead of going back and sub x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Lol lui XD

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Batman >.>

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can use u = 2x-1 du = 2dx \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits \frac{ u+1 }{ 2\sqrt{u} }du\] it's what lui recommended, this could work, but will take a while, you'll have to expand the integrand.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Actually no, this is pretty good

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

\[\Large \frac{1}{4} \int\frac{x+1}{\sqrt{u}}~du \] ^Simplier

OpenStudy (precal):

omg isn't there an easy method to do this instead of substitution

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Force it into a trig sub?

OpenStudy (precal):

assuming the sky is the limit and I could use any valid method other than substitution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ 2 } \int\limits (\frac{ \sqrt{u} }{ 2 }+\frac{ 1 }{ 2\sqrt{u} }) du = \frac{ 1 }{ 4 } \int\limits \frac{ 1 }{ \sqrt{u} }du +\frac{ 1 }{ 4 }\int\limits \sqrt{u}du\]

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

My knowledge in calc is limited, sorry :P Ask batman~

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well I'd say this is the best way tbh, you can try other stuff, but might be a bit tedious, idk.

OpenStudy (precal):

@iambatman are you using integration by parts

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, just substitution, and then algebra :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Only the start of the integration is calculus, then it goes back to high school math, remember the rules :P

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

You COULD use IBP but it'll be harder if you ask me..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you allowed to use IBP?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

substitution is always the easiest method, integration by parts is always the hardest method NON-NEGOTIABLE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Agreed

OpenStudy (precal):

no but I have taken Cal I, II, III a very long time ago

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think substitution is the best way to approach this integral, well that's what the first thing comes in mind, then if that doesn't work you start testing other methods.

OpenStudy (precal):

ok thanks I will come back to these problems later

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Np, try doing this problem again, without help ;P, instead of doing definite integrals, try just focusing on how you would approach them as indefinite.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Because, lets be honest once you do the integration part, putting the limits is easy :)

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