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OpenStudy (superhelp101):

What is the possible discriminant of the graph? -11 zero 25 73

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

@mathmate @mathmale any help?

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

discriminant < 0 means there are no real roots (graph does not touch x-axis) discriminant = 0 means there is only 1 real root (graph touches only once) discriminant > 0 means there are 2 real roots (graph touches twice)

OpenStudy (mathmale):

As you probably know, the "discrimiant" is the quantity b^2-4ac, which is under the radical in the quadratic formula. Your job here is to approximate the values of a, b and c from the graph and then to calculate the approx. discriminant. As dumbcow has just explained, a positive discriminant implies that there are 2 real roots (which is what your graph shows).

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

oh wait so the the first and second option cancels out

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

yes

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

what do I do after that?

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

i would approximate the zeroes to be -3 and 1 \[y = a(x+3)(x-1)\] use point (0,-6) to solve for "a" distribute to get form y = ax^2+bx+c calculate discriminate

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

i am confused

OpenStudy (mathmale):

dumbcow's suggestion is a very good one and is probably the easiest approach. I was going to repeat my own suggestion: "As you probably know, the "discrimiant" is the quantity b^2-4ac, which is under the radical in the quadratic formula. Your job here is to approximate the values of a, b and c from the graph and then to calculate the approx. discriminant." In what way are you confused? What info need you to feel more comfortable?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

umm. yes

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Yes what?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

I don't know how to use: y=a(x+3)(x−1) use point (0,-6) to solve for "a" distribute to get form y = ax^2+bx+c

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

when i plug in i get a=2 but don't know what i need to do next

OpenStudy (mathmale):

dumbcow looked at the graph and found the approximate values of the roots (x-intercepts or zeros). Do you agree that these are approx. -3.2 and +1? In this case it'd be good enough to round those up to -3 and +1. Why do we care what the roots are? Because, by identifying them, we can reconstruct the polynomial whose roots they are.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

can you please show me?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Since dumbcow is absolutely on the right track here, I'm going to let him/her continue.

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

haha i forgot to mention that if discriminant is a perfect square then the roots must be rational so we could conclude based on the graph that the only option is 73 since 25 is a perfect square

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

um.. could you explain the whole process of how the answer is 73 please. I can't seem to understand. i am visual.

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

@mathmale , i realized by approximating the rounding error on the discriminant is enough to make the answer ambiguous

OpenStudy (mathmale):

We have already eliminated two possible answers. That leaves two: 25 and 73. Even with some ambiguity, we should be able to decide which of these two is the closer to what we are observing / calculating, don't you think?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

@superhelp101: Please look at the graph again. What is the value of the function when x=0? Of what possible use is this information?

OpenStudy (mathmale):

Hint: If y=ax^2 + bx + c, and x=0, y=? c=?

OpenStudy (dumbcow):

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