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OpenStudy (superhelp101):

What is the possible discriminant of the graph? a parabola opening up with vertex near negative 1.2 comma negative 9.1. a y intercept of negative 6 -11 zero 25 73

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

@satellite73 could you please help meh on this problem?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

@robtobey please i need your help?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

@satellite73 can you help

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

@radar can you please help me

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

@radar @satellite73 @robtobey my only hopes i have. I really need your help

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

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OpenStudy (radar):

Is this the problem?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

yep!

OpenStudy (radar):

Lets see what aum has to say.

OpenStudy (aum):

In \(\Large y = ax^2 + bx + c\), the y-intercept is c, the sum of the roots = -b/a the product of the roots = c/a You can read the roots and the y-intercept off of the graph.

OpenStudy (aum):

Solve for a, b and c. Discriminant = \(b^2 - 4ac\)

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

could u help me with finding the discriminant

OpenStudy (aum):

What is the y-intercept from the graph? What are the roots (or x-intercepts) from the graph?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

umm..

OpenStudy (aum):

Actually in the statement of the problem they give you the y-intercept.

OpenStudy (radar):

@aum The problem states the y intercept is -6, does that make c=-6

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

i think so. yes

OpenStudy (aum):

Yes, c = -6 If we put x = 0 in y = ax^2 + bx + c we get y = c

OpenStudy (radar):

Thanks, is that enough for you to solve this problem @superhelp101?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

um I really am stuck with what to do next

OpenStudy (aum):

Read the x-coordinates of where the graph crosses the x-axis. Those are the roots.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

sorry I am dumb.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

ok I understand to that point

OpenStudy (aum):

What are the x-coordinates of where the graph crosses the x-axis?

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

(-3.306, 0) and (.806, 0)

OpenStudy (radar):

Look at the left most root where y=0, it states x= my eyes are bad, but it looks like a negative 3.

OpenStudy (radar):

Oh it is 3.306 (all I could see was the -3.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

yep

OpenStudy (aum):

Yes, the roots are -3.306 and 0.806. Multiply the roots and equate it to c/a We already know c = -6 So you can solve for a.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

wait I think i got 73 as my answer. Am i right?

OpenStudy (radar):

Looks pretty straight forward, what do you get for a @superhelp101 ?

OpenStudy (radar):

Lets see what i get (-3.306)(0.806) =-6/a -2.664636 =-6/a a=-6/-2.664636 a=2.251714681 That was not 73, @aum am I off the rail here?

OpenStudy (aum):

I am getting a = 2.252 too (up to 3 decimals as their x-intercepts are up to 3 decimals). c = -6 sum of roots = -3.306 + 0.806 = -2.5 = -b/a b = 2.5 * a = 2.5 * 2.252 = 5.63 b^2 - 4ac = (5.63)^2 - 4(2.252)(-6) = 85.745

OpenStudy (aum):

The above values of a.b and c are correct because the equation: 2.252x^2 + 5.63x - 6 = 0 gives the same roots as given in the problem and has the same y-intercept. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2.252x^2+%2B+5.63x+-+6+%3D+0

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

my answer choices don't have 85 only has -11 zero 25 73

OpenStudy (radar):

The discriminant is a positive rational number 85.745 which is not the square of an integer that should mean the roots are irrational........right.

OpenStudy (aum):

"What is the possible discriminant" ..... "vertex near" seems to suggest they want an estimate or an approximate value. So I'd probably go with 73.

OpenStudy (radar):

@superhelp101 you must select the best answer, I too would go with the 73, definitely not 0 or -11.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

ok that's what i would go with too. i will tell you if that was right or wrong, just a sec for it to grade

OpenStudy (radar):

I am waiting with bated breath....

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

IT WAS RIGHT! I LOVE U GUYS

OpenStudy (radar):

Wheeeeewwwwww!!

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

I LOVE YOU GUYS! I understand

OpenStudy (radar):

Give aum the medal.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

i did, but I was going to give both of you guys. Both helped me

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

I could only give one

OpenStudy (radar):

Thanks for staying with us @aum

OpenStudy (aum):

radar's earlier reply made me realize we could have saved a whole lot of these calculations and quickly picked 73 as the "possible" discriminant because: We know the roots are REAL and that the roots are NOT INTEGERS. Therefore, the discriminant cannot be negative and the discriminant cannot be a perfect square such as 25 or a zero because both of those will give rational roots.

OpenStudy (radar):

Slap. hand hitting forehead. lol

OpenStudy (aum):

lol

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

Lol

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

it's ok, we all learned something new today, right?

OpenStudy (radar):

I did, I am saying 73, which in ham radio means best regards. Good day and good luck.

OpenStudy (superhelp101):

thank you!

OpenStudy (aum):

I meant to say: From the graph we know the roots are REAL and the roots are possibly IRRATIONAL rounded to three decimal places. Real roots rule out negative discriminant. Two DIFFERENT roots implies the discriminant is not zero. Two irrational roots rule out a perfect square discriminant which leaves just 73 as the only possible answer choice.

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