The moon forms a right triangle with the Earth and the Sun during one of its phases, as shown below: A scientist measures the angle x and the distance y between the Sun and the moon. Using complete sentences, explain how the scientist can use only these two measurements to calculate the distance between the Earth and the moon.
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@campbell_st @ganeshie8 @mathstudent55 @phi
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its because a 3rd measurement is given... its the right angle... and using right angled trigonometry you can find the distance between the earth and the moon.
what is the third measurement
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the right angle..... its given to you in the diagram
I'm confused on what to do
can u help me to understand?
ok... so this is a question about trigonometry in angle right triangle.... of you are given 1 angle and 1 side measure, you can find another side measure using trigonometry the distance from the earth to the moon is opposite the angle x you have a measure for the hypotenuse.... y so using the sin ratio sin(x) = opp/hyp you can find the distance it would be sin(x) = (Earth to moon)/y so manipulating the equation Earth to Moon = y * sin(x)
but there aren't any numbers for the equation @campbell_st
do i do it with the variables?
that's correct.... the questioner is asking in general terms.... how can you use the 2 given measures to find a 3rd.... so the value of x could be 12 degrees and y = 1000000 km.... or you could select any pair you like... but 12 and 1000000 is a specific case
i have no idea what to do @campbell_st
how can i use that for my question?
@radar
@tHe_FiZiCx99
say the scientist is cheating as there is a 3rd measure given, the right angle. Knowing that a right angle has been formed the scientist will is trigonometry, specifically the sin ratio to find the distance from the earth to the moon. if the distance from the earth to the moon is d then \[\sin(x) = \frac{d}{y}\] which becomes \[d = y \times \sin(x)\] and this is another classic example as to why math come before science. hope it helps
but how the scientist can use only these two measurements to calculate the distance between the Earth and the moon? @campbell_st
what r the measurements? the variables?
the equation above only uses 2 measures... x and y
there are variables... which means the vary.... x could be any angle less than 90
but how can we use them when we don't have any numbers
the equation above says to find d, you only need x and y
perhaps you should ask your teacher to explain variables.....
how do i find what they are?
not they have to have values?
dont
you don't need to know.... you are being asked to provide a general solution... which covers all cases for x and y
ok can u help me answer my question?
sorry... I have to go to school.
from who can i get help from?
just post the question... and someone will look at it
how much time do u have before getting off the computer?
@phi
@mathstudent55
@mathstudent55
plz help!
The Earth_Moon distance is equal to the product of the Moon_Sun distance, y, and the Sine of angle x.
ok but how do i do this?
what am i supposed to do
i don't have numbers
i wrote that they can use them to find the third measurement how do i add more to that?
In the problem statement, the scientist has measured y and angle x. The measurement numbers are not given and we do not have access to his notes. The statement: The Earth_Moon distance is equal to the product of the Moon_Sun distance, y, and the Sine of angle x. is in effect a formula, a method, directions, process, to calculate the Earth_Moon distance.
ok so we can use them for the third measurement?
Yes.
wait this is what i wrote
you can use the trigonometric functions and angle x and distance y to get the third measurements. we can use angle x and distance y to find out what the earth to moon distance is
what else should i add
You might put in the an actual trig function such as: ie. the earth to moon distance is equal to y sin(x).
anything else?
just add that in?
I cannot guarantee what your instructor will say, but it sounds like you now have the central idea.
can u help me with another one? An observer (O) is located 900 feet from a building (B). The observer notices a helicopter (H) flying at a 49° angle of elevation from his line of sight. How high is the helicopter flying over the building? You must show all work and calculations to receive full credit.
With this type of trig problem divide the unknown, h, by 900 and then ask yourself what trig function does this ratio represent. Tangent for this problem. Now h/900 = Tan(49) or h = 900 Tan(49.) This is how I worked out the astronomy problem.
i got 1035.3315665
is it right
Yes. And to wow your class mates as such, here it is to 20 decimal digtis from Mathematic 9 Home Edition. 1035.3315664989086003
yay!!!!!!!
and can u check a problem Explain the difference between using the tangent ratio to solve for a missing angle in a right triangle versus using the cotangent ratio. You must use complete sentences and any evidence needed (such as an example) to prove your point of view. i put the answers come out to be reciprocals. except that there is no other difference.
is it good enough? what else should i add?
I think that I would leave it as one is the reciprocal of the other. Strictly speaking, each has specific coressponding side ratios. One could have invented the Tangent and not given the Cotangent a name.
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so just say that they are reciprocals?
Yes. Are you being tought from a "Common Core" text book?
i dont know
thank u very much!!!!
Your are welcome.
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