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OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do I derive this equation?

OpenStudy (ibbutibbu.):

Thats a nice equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[d\frac{ (Ca*\ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }) }{ dCa}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know it's the product rule. but the natural log has me confused.

OpenStudy (phi):

d/dx (ln y) = 1/y dy/dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi So is the answer Ca*1/(cL/Ca)+ln(cL/Ca)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or should I just simply the ln fraction

OpenStudy (phi):

is cL a variable or a constant ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Constant

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ d\frac{ (Ca\ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }) }{ dCa} = Ca \frac{d \ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }}{d Ca} + \ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }\] and \[ \frac{d \ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }}{d Ca} = \frac{1}{\frac{cL}{Ca}} \frac{d}{d Ca} \frac{ cL }{ Ca }\\ = \frac{cL}{Ca} cL \frac{d (Ca)^{-1}}{d Ca} \\ = \frac{(cL)^2}{Ca} (-(Ca)^{-2}) \\ = - \frac{(cL)^2}{(Ca)^3} \]

OpenStudy (phi):

oops, I did not flip the fraction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think I have made a mistake as well...

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ \frac{d \ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }}{d Ca} = \frac{1}{\frac{cL}{Ca}} \frac{d}{d Ca} \frac{ cL }{ Ca }\\ = \frac{Ca}{cL} cL \frac{d (Ca)^{-1}}{d Ca} \\ = Ca (-(Ca)^{-2}) \\ = - \frac{1}{Ca} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The initial equation I gave you should equal to zero

OpenStudy (anonymous):

From using the Product rule. I should get d/Ca (Ca*lncL-Ca*lnCa)=0

OpenStudy (phi):

so (with any luck) we get \[ d\frac{ (Ca\ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }) }{ dCa} = Ca \frac{d \ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }}{d Ca} + \ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca } = Ca \cdot - \frac{1}{Ca} +\ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca } \\ = \ln \frac{ cL }{ Ca }-1 \]

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, starting with \[ C_a \ln cL-C_a \ln C_a \] makes it easier \[ \frac{d}{C_a}\left(C_a \ln cL-C_a \ln C_a \right) \\ = \ln cL - \left( C_a \cdot \frac{1}{C_a} + \ln C_a\right) \\ = \ln cL - 1 - \ln C_a \\ =\ln\left( \frac{cL}{C_a}\right) -1 \]

OpenStudy (phi):

and if that equals zero, \[ \ln\left( \frac{cL}{C_a}\right) -1 =0 \\ \ln\left( \frac{cL}{C_a}\right)=1\\ \frac{cL}{C_a}= e \\ cL= C_a\cdot e \]

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