Can anyone teach me on factoring? Plssssssss.......
And rational expressions
You are better post the particular problem and practice on it. It will help you know how to master the method.
ok sure
\[12x^4y^5-18xy^6\]
Its easy when i do special products
But doing the other way round I just dont know how. I get screwed up.
I saw uncle Rhaukus is writing, let's wait for uncle, ok?
Fully expanding the terms makes it a bit clearer \[12x^4y^5−18xy^6= 2\times2\times3\times x\times x\times x\times x\times y\times y\times y\times y\times y\\\qquad\qquad\qquad\qquad-2\times3\times3\times x\times y\times y\times y\times y\times y\times y\]
Woooow!!
to factor the expression , we have to pull out the common factors, the common factors are 2, 3, x, y, y, y, y, y,
why so many y?
@UnkleRhaukus It is perfect way to do. However, it's so.... basic. Please, give him teenager step, not baby's one like that.
\[12x^4y^5−18xy^6= 2\times2\times3\times x\times x\times x\times x\times y\times y\times y\times y\times y\\\qquad\qquad\qquad\qquad-2\times3\times3\times x\times y\times y\times y\times y\times y\times y\\~\\\qquad\qquad=2\times3\times x\times y\times y\times y\times y\times y(2\times x\times x\times x-3\times y)\]
Wait what? Its confusing...
\[12x^4y^5−18xy^6 = (6\times x\times y^5\times2\times x^3 -6\times x\times y^5\times3\times y)\]
There's actually so many types of factoring, and I screw at all of them.
now use \[ab+ac=a(b+c)\] where \(a\) is the product of all the common facors
you mean 2 is the common factor?
2 is one of the common factors
Because 12 and 18 are divisible by 2.
yeah so even x and y are common factors?
you could factor the 2 out in a first step if you want to \[12x^4y^5−18xy^6=2(6x^4y^5-9xy^6) \]
yeah both of the terms have factors of x and y, in fact both have at least 5 factors of y in them, so you can factor out xy^5 \[=2(6x^4y^5−9xy^6)\\=2xy^5(6x^3−9y)\]
after we have factored out 2xy^5, there is one more common factor in the terms in the parenthesis ,
6 and 9 are divisible by 3 right?
thats right
But how would you put it out?
when 2 is already outside?
\[=2xy^5(6x^3−9y)\\=2xy^5(3\times2x^3−3\times3y)\\=3\times2xy^5(2x^3−3y)\]
\[6xy^5(2x^3-3y)\]
am i right?
That's right \[\checkmark \]
can you give me a question and I'll try to answer it?
what if we had \[4ab^2+40a^2\] how can we factorise it ?
Wait. Let me try on my scratch first.
ill give you a clue, there are only two common factors
\[4a(ab^2+10a)\]
that is so close
wait
\[4a(b^2+10a)\]
YESSSS !!
Let me try to solve for this one... Its quite hard.
210a^14-180a^8c
oh no....Im screwed again.
look at the number terms first, if it helps 210 and 180 both have factors of 10 right?
i used 3 as factors
i guess i was wrong....
yeah 3 is a factor also
the largest common factor between 210 and 180 is 10x3 = 30
\[30a^8(7a^6-6c)\]
Not sure with my answer though.
THat is correct!!
Sorry if I bother you alot.....Im a freshmen in college taking up civil engineering....
really?
let me try x(m+n)-(m+n)
to check it, just go back the other way, and hopefully you'll get what you started with \[30a^8(7a^6−6c)\\=30a^8\times7a^6+30a^8\times-6c\\ =210a^{8+6}-180a^8c\]
hint x(m+n)-(m+n) is the same as x(m+n)-1(m+n)
(x-1)(m+n)?
Yes, Great stuff !
If you do not have enough time to teach me anymore its ok. I'll try to ask someone else.... Just tell me if you need to go.
Cause i might have alot of questions.
i can do one, more, but after that maybe you should close this post and start a new one
Oh? your going?
i can do one more
\[6a^2b^4-18a^2b^5-14a^4b^8\]
this one has three terms but the idea is the same \[wx+wy+wz = w(x+y+z)\]
wait im still solving.....
\[2a^2b^4(3a-9b-7b^4)\]
Looks like Im wrong
almost, you did find the right common factor to factor out, but \[2a^2b^4(3a−9b−7b^4)=6a^3b^4-18a^2b^5-14a^2b^8 \] which isn't quite the same as \(6a^2b^4−18a^2b^5−14a^4b^8\)
wait i gave the wrong question...
\[6a^3b^4-18a^2b^5-14a^4b^8\]
There it is....
the last term still isn't right
\[2a^2b^4(3a-9b-7a^2b^4)\]
yeah i know....
\[2a^2b^4(3a-9b-7a^2b^4)\\=2a^2b^4\times3a+2a^2b^4\times-9b+2a^2b^4\times-7a^2b^4)\\=(2\times3)a^{2+1}b^4+(2\times-9)a^2b^{4+1}+(2\times-7)a^{2+2}b^{4+4}\\ =6a^3b^4-18a^2b^5-14a^4b^8\] look like you got it!
you sure?
i can't see any thing wrong with the working, (other than that extra parenthesis)
parentesis is part of it right?
If you should go tell me.... I'll ask help from solomonZelman
i just mean i typed it a bit wrong\[2a^2b^4(3a-9b-7a^2b^4)\\=2a^2b^4\times3a+2a^2b^4\times-9b+2a^2b^4\times-7a^2b^4\color{red})\\=(2\times3)a^{2+1}b^4+(2\times-9)a^2b^{4+1}+(2\times-7)a^{2+2}b^{4+4}\\ =6a^3b^4-18a^2b^5-14a^4b^8\] this extra parenthesis
i'm pretty sure you got it right
Ok. Well maybe i should open a new question then....
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