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OpenStudy (abhisar):

Calculate net flux through the cube

OpenStudy (abhisar):

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OpenStudy (abhisar):

@Johnbc

OpenStudy (abhisar):

I am trying to solve it with gauss law, but not getting the answer !

OpenStudy (abhisar):

The charges are assigned at each corner

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Was just reviewing Gauss's law.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

so ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not entirely sure, was thinking of breaking the problem and placing a charge in the middle of the face of each cube but the distant of those are unknown and the charge is not evenly distributed throughout the cube so that might not work. Another method though is looking at the electric field but I do not remember it clearly.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

gauss law says that net flux = Q/\(\sf E_0\)

OpenStudy (abhisar):

wr Q is the total chrge enclosed within the gaussian surface.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\phi = \frac{ q }{ e_0 }\] Right and the total charge enclosed within this surface could be at the middle of the cube.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Yeah...that's what m not sure about. I think you are right...we can not take charges at the corners as enclosed charge ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

At the corners, not of the cube but of the individual spherical charges.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

I am not getting you...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Enclosed charge within the gaussian surface of the spherical charges themselves at the corners but not of the cube which would have to be at the middle.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

ok..i get it now. But then how to find flux associated through this cube ?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

can u help @Kainui ?

OpenStudy (kainui):

So you want the flux through the cube? Are the charges in the cube or outside the cube?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

they are at the corners

OpenStudy (abhisar):

exactly at the corners of the cube.

OpenStudy (kainui):

I guess it comes down to whether you are interpreting "at the corners" as inside or outside.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

@Abhisar Suppose you take a sphere of radius a at one of the corners with center being that corner. You will have exactly one charge inside the gaussian surface, then you can calculate flux for that sphere. Can you try?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I was thinking the same thing because within the cube there would only be 1/4 of the charge if it was at the corner. |dw:1406533430584:dw|

OpenStudy (abhisar):

So you want me to calculate flux through the sphere ?

OpenStudy (ash2326):

yes

OpenStudy (ash2326):

I agree with john, only 1/4 of the charge will be considered, so your flux can be divided by 4

OpenStudy (abhisar):

OH...so charge inside the cube will be 36/4=9 ?

OpenStudy (kainui):

Wait I think I see what's going on here! Since the charge is directly on the corner you only have flux through the 3 faces that are adjacent to the opposite corner.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

yes, you can consider that

OpenStudy (abhisar):

will it be 1/4 or 1/8 ?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

it's 3d...

OpenStudy (abhisar):

yeah...i got it

OpenStudy (abhisar):

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OpenStudy (abhisar):

So total charge inside the cube will be 1/8(36) C, Now using gauss law flux = \(\sf \frac{36}{8E_0}\)

OpenStudy (ash2326):

is it correct?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

yes it is :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why did you say only 1/8th ?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Remember crystal lattice ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yup

OpenStudy (abhisar):

there is only one atom in a primitive lattice

OpenStudy (abhisar):

because only 1/8th part is considered inside the lattice......visualize the 3d figure..

OpenStudy (abhisar):

8 cubes cover each corner..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right! Now I understand, I overlooked that part about 3D

OpenStudy (abhisar):

yeah...and i was considering charge as a particle..

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Thank you very much @Johnbc @ash2326 and @Kainui

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, thank you.

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