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OpenStudy (abhisar):

The electric potential in some region is expressed by \(\large \sf V=6x-8xy^2-8y+6yz-4z^2\) V. The magnitude of force acting on a charge of 2C situated at the origin will be ?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Answer is 20 N.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

I know i will have to find the field first but how to do that ?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

@ash2326

OpenStudy (ash2326):

E is gradient of potential \[E=-\frac {\delta V}{\delta x}(i)-\frac {\delta V}{\delta y}(j)-\frac {\delta V}{\delta z}(k)\] i, j and K are unit vectors in x, y and z direction. Can you find now?

OpenStudy (ash2326):

\[\frac{\delta V}{\delta x}= \text{partial differentiation of V w.r.t x}\]

OpenStudy (abhisar):

ok..but what about the terms which contain both x and y...like -8XY\(^2\)

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Sorry for my noobness....a bio base student

OpenStudy (ash2326):

when you partially differentiate w.r.t x- all other variables are treated as constant Say 8xy^2- partial differentiation w.r.t x--------------> 8y^2 partial differntiation w.r.t y-------------------------->18x*(2y)=16xy Do you follow good sir?

OpenStudy (ash2326):

ignore the 18, it's 8

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Oh i got it.....So i will differentiate to get an equation for E, then multiply it with charge to get force...ryt ??

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Once you find E from potential, you will get E in terms of x, y and z. The question has stated another important fact- charge placed at origin. So you need to find Electric field at origin- plugin x=0, y=0 and z=0 Once you have done that, you will have E at origin. Then you multiply with charge to find the force on it.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

yes...yes...i follow you @ash2326 ! Thanx a ton !

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Welcome :)

OpenStudy (abhisar):

one min....can u tell me the final equation for E ?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

I mean the result after differentiation.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

What did you get? I will check it

OpenStudy (abhisar):

So there will be three equations ryt ?

OpenStudy (abhisar):

6-8y^2-8y+6yz-4z^2

OpenStudy (abhisar):

6x-16xy-8+6z-4z^2

OpenStudy (ash2326):

E= f(x,y,z) i+g(x,y,z)j+u(x,y,z)k where f, g and u are functions of x, y and Only one equation

OpenStudy (abhisar):

ok can u show me an example..like differentiate some other random equation.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

I will do for x \[\large \sf V=6x-8xy^2-8y+6yz-4z^2\] \[E=-\frac{\delta(6x-8xy^2-8y+6yz-4z^2)}{\delta x}+......\] \[E=-(6-8y^2-0+0-0)i.....................\] Do you follow? you need to put the y direction and z direction field.

OpenStudy (abhisar):

oh..so you differentiated it wrt x. I'll have to differentiate it wrt y and z. And finally put x,y,z as 0 since they are at origin.

OpenStudy (ash2326):

yes, then you will get something of the form \[E=-6i+aj+bk\] for force, you will multiply by 2 Coloumbs

OpenStudy (ash2326):

Another thing which is highlighted by the answer. It says 20 N, no direction!!!! So you have to find the magnitude of the force. I believe you can do that

OpenStudy (abhisar):

Yes i am getting \(-6i+8j+0k\) -->|E| = 10 So force=2*10=20N Thanx for taking the pain @ash2326 . It's well said that doctors become the worse patient :D

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