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OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

This is a rather silly question haha is there proofs to volumes of some solids without knowing the integral. Just basic geometry intuition I believe ancient mathematicians derived many volumes and areas of known solids and planes without calculus.

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@ganeshie8

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@ash2326

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@robtobey

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

@ikram002p @Kainui @dan815

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

I've been asking myself this one for a long time

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

me too :3 i remember pondering on this topic a couple of years ago... there is a general formula known to ancient mathematicians for finding the volume of solid of ANY shape bounded between two planes... but i don't seem to recall the name of that formula... its not steinmetz solid formula but its closely related to this shape http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SteinmetzSolid.html

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

I got your point, I believe too that it is the bounding concept to approach any shape's volume.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

its not archimedes approximation, its more involved than that il post the link once i find it..

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

Let's take a sphere for example, what type of shapes that we can use to bound it

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

Archimedes approach doesn't work for every solids and shape what if the shape is floating, we can know it's volume.

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can't*

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

interesting, how does archimeded approach work ? xD

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

let's say you got a heavy random shape, and we got a volume of water. the make things easy we use the cubic shape that has measurements instruction. we fill it with some water but not fully, then we put that shape inside. the level of water will rise up. Archimedes concluded that the level of water that was added is the volume of the shape we put in the water. Archimedes realized this when he was swimming and saw that the water rose up.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

gotcha :) the way we find volumes in chemistry lab !

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

Yeah that's Archimedes experiment!

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But he studied many shapes and did a lot of experiments. He wouldn't the actual formula of some volume just by that. he needed to compare his results with other known shapes and therefore make conclusions

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He wouldn't get*

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@SolomonZelman

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Waiting for more ideas! I'm considering to re study geometry with the intent to see through questions that are kept unanswered to me

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@zepdrix

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@thomaster

OpenStudy (ikram002p):

mmm what i know that they counted on this idea :- volume=base area * height when both bases are the same like this |dw:1406812527137:dw| how ever othere shapes they used experiment like water volume to count like how cone volume related to cilendrical mmm as i know there is no general formulla used for all , i mean each volume had its special story how did they find it :P

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