Freddie is at chess practice waiting on his opponent's next move. He notices that the 4-inch-long minute hand is rotating around the clock and marking off time like degrees on a unit circle. Part 1: How many radians does the minute hand move from 3:35 to 3:55? (Hint: Find the number of degrees per minute first.) Part 2: How far does the tip of the minute hand travel during that time? Part 3: How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel from 0° if it were to move 3π inches? Part 4: What is the coordinate point associated with this radian measure?
I found 2π/3 for part 1
8π/3 for part 2
I also found 3π/4 for part 3, I just need help with part 4
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I'm not very good with math ;-;
Ok sorry
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Would you explain in your own words what you are being asked for in Part 4? What mathematical terms apply?
I am supposed to use the radian measure that I found in part 3 to find the coordinates of where the minute hand is supposed to be at that measure, but I'm not sure how.
Good. We need to use the circumference formula. You familiar with that?
Yes I am. C=πd
Good. What about the arc length formula? Type that out, please.
Excuse me, but if you've done Part 3 already, you probably already have some of the answer for Part 4. What is your answer for part 3, and how did y ou obtain it?
Part 3: How many radians on the unit circle would the minute hand travel from 0° if it were to move 3π inches?
Arc length is s=r(theta) I worked backwards from the arc length formula
I did 3π=4(theta)
And solved for theta
The tip of the minute had moves 3pi radians along the circle of radius 4 inches. Fair enough: I agree with your logic.
What is your value for this angle, theta? Are you measuring it in degrees or in radians?
I got 3π/4 radians, which is 135 degrees.
It asks for radians in part 3.
Looks great. So now, the minute hand has rotated (3/4)pi radians. The length of the minute hand is 4 inches. Do these formulas look at all familiar to you? x=r cos theta y=r sin theta
As a footnote, the cosine function is defined as the length of the side adjacent to the angle in a right triangle, divided by the hypotenuse of the triangle. Familiar?
No, I'm sorry
The second part is familiar.
The footnote, I mean
Have you studied trigonometry yet? Trig presents the easiest method of coming up with the answer to Part IV.
Yes I have
then you know that \[\sin \theta=\frac{ opp }{ hyp }\] where "opp" represents the length of side opposite the angle in question, and "hyp" is (obviously) the hypotenuse length.
Yes I do
If\[\sin \theta=\frac{ opp }{ hyp }\]then opp=(hyp)(sin theta).
\[y=r*\sin \]
sorry. I mean: y = r * sin theta.
How do you define the cosine function?
Do you mean cos=adj/hyp or f(x)=a cos(bx-c)+d ?
The first formula, that's the definition of the cosine function. If y ou accept that definition, and if you multiply both sides by "hyp," you obtain x= (hyp)(cos theta). Here, your radius is 4 inches, your angle is (3/4)pi or 135 degrees. First find the x-coordinate of the tip of the minute hand by finding x=(4 inches)(cosine 135 deg).
Is x the x-coordinate that I'm looking for?
Yes. You want the coordinates of the tip of the minute hand, and are now finding the x-coord. separately. Next, you'll find the y-coord.
Would the x-coordinate be -2.8?
Yes! Now, try finding the y-coordinate. Would you expect it to be positive or negative? Why? Hint: in which direction does the minute hand turn?
It goes clockwise so the y-coordinate would be negative.
You're doing very well indeed. Indeed the tip of the minute hand would be in quadrant III as measured counterclockwise from 0 degrees or 0 radians. What do you now think are the coordinates of the tip of the minute hand?
I'm sorry, sir. I'm not sure about what to do from here.
You've correctly found the x-coordinate of the tip of the minute hand: x=-2.8. You've correctly predicted that the y-coord. is negative. By evaluating (4 inches)(sin [-(3/4)pi], you'll end up with the y-coordinate. What is it?
I got -0.16 but I don't think that I'm right.
How did you obtain that? Are you using a calculator?
Yes I am
I used sin for 3/4, then multiplied it by pi, and then multiplied it by 4.
Can you set it to either degree or radian mode? if so, set it to degree mode if you're finding y=sin (-135 deg) or to radian mode if you're finding y = sin ([3/4]pi).
I see. That explains what happened here. FIRST, multiply (-3/4) by pi. only AFTER that, find the sine of the result.
Please try again.
In which mode (degrees or radians) is your calculator currently operating?
Degree
then the angle in question is -135 degrees. type in cos (-135) and see what you get.
I got -0.707
And that's correct.
For the y-coordinate?
Your -0.707 is correct as the value of the sine of (-135 deg). But you still have to multiply that by 4 inches, don't you? Try it, please. Hint: the x- and the y- coordinates happen to be the same here!
Oh wow, I kept getting -2.8 for y but I thought I was wrong
So the coordinates are (-2.8.-2.8)?
Yes, that's perfect, EXCEPT you'll need to write "inches" after each of the two coordinates.
Ok. Thank you, sir, so very much!
My great pleasure, fawkes! Talk with you again!
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