a little help with one medium/hard integral?
Have you tried partial fractions?
oh? like divide the top by bottom? D: I was asked to do this with u sub but I dunno how
Not quite. What I mean is split up the given rational function into component rational functions, like you would with \[\frac{x}{(x-1)(x+1)}=\frac{1}{2(x-1)}+\frac{1}{2(x+1)}\]
you can use u-sub
Yes instructions want me to use u sub :O
Even so, partial fractions will probably be needed. A single substitution won't take care of the integral in one step.
Let's say you want to go the substitution route. You'd try \(u=x^4+x\), which gives \(du=(4x^3+1)~dx\). You'll want to rewrite the original integrand so you can apply this sub: \[\int\frac{2x^3-1}{x^4+x}~dx=\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{4x^3+1}{x^4+x}~dx-\frac{3}{2}\int\frac{dx}{x^4+x}\]
hm? we're substituting u right into this equation now?
We could, for the first integral. You'll reduce it to a logarithmic result. Partial fractions for the second.
\[\frac{1}{2}\int\frac{du}{u}-\frac{3}{2}\int\frac{dx}{x^4+x}\]
ahh ok, I think I get this step :) What can I do after?
Factorizing the denominator of the second integral is the next step: \[x^4+x=x(x^3+1)=x(x+1)(x^2-x+1)\]
So, \[\frac{1}{x(x+1)(x^2-x+1)}=\frac{a}{x}+\frac{b}{x+1}+\frac{cx+d}{x^2-x+1}\] and solve for the constants as you normally would.
try this and see if it'll be easier to use u-sub without integration gymnastics \[\int\limits \frac{ 2x^3 -1 }{ x^4+x }dx \rightarrow \int\limits \frac{2x- \frac{1}{x^2}}{x^2+ \frac{1}{x}} dx\]
I prefer the most tedious route :P
haha I figured. I hope I didn't intrude
wait ninja can you explain your ways too, please?
@sith may I ask what is c and d?
nice trick haha :) so many stones to hit our heads with : we can use the similar trick for second integral in S&G's route : \[\int \dfrac{1}{x^4+x}dx = \int \dfrac{(x^3+1)-x^3}{x(x^3+1)}dx = \int \dfrac{1}{x}dx - \int \dfrac{x^2}{x^3+1}dx \]
sorry nin****
oh then second intergral would be ln(x) -x -arc cot (x) + C
what about the first? I'm a little confused on the cx+d part
it is a pure u-sub it is just rewriting before we actually use any integration technique just as 1/x is the same as x^(-1) we can always rewrite our problem
@nincompoop not at all! Any more efficient method is always welcome. @study100 \(c\) and \(d\) are coefficients of a linear factor. If you haven't learned about partial fractions, or haven't been exposed to higher order factors in the denominator, you can rely on the others' methods. If you're curious: \(x^2-x+1\) is an irreducible quadratic factor (no real roots, so you can't write it in \((x-x_1)(x-x_2)\) form. Instead of using a constant factor, we need to use a linear one. It's kind of a "this is how it is" thing to remember for me, so I'm not sure how else to explain it. There are plenty of resources online you can refer to if you'd like to see why we do it.
I somewhat get the definition now that I googled it up a bit while waiting. Sorry, would you give me a few more hints on the 1st one?
@nincompoop what would be the u sub with your method?
you use the denominator as your u
u= x^2 + 1/x ? du = 2x -1/x^2
\[u = x^2 + \frac{1}{x} \]
yes, try that and see the magic appear before your eyes
1st integral = 1/2 ln u? for your method @SithsAndGiggles
Yes, \(\dfrac{1}{2}\ln u=\dfrac{1}{2}\ln(x^4+x)\).
holy moly integral of du/u : o what
laughing out loud
so answer in sith's method f(x) = 1/2 ln(x^4+x) - 3/2 ( ln(x) -x - arc cot (x) ) + C
and nin's method is ln (u) which is ln (x^2 + (1/x)) + C
it's different, but maybe the same after simplification later?
should be
and holy moly nin :o how did you change the fractions to that form?
You can use this property to keep rewriting to your heart's content:\[\ln(x^4+x)=\ln [x(x^3+1)]=\ln x+\ln(x^3+1)\]
how? practice, practice and practice http://finedrafts.com/files/CUNY/math/calculus/Larson%20etal%209th%20ed/
Wow, I bookmarked that link , ty nin. I'll try to rewrite this using that property for practice too. Good god, thank you so much! @SithsAndGiggles @nincompoop
You're welcome, but the medal distribution is a bit skewed :)
Closed :) <3 ty @ganeshie8 for helping with 2nd integral too
there, for nin too :D
in the future, you will be forced to do partial fractions and all sorts of integration gymnastics for even the easiest integration problem I had to go through it and I bet even the other students here did as well
I guess there's no way out of it v.v does that site link you gave me includes practice for partial fractions?
Idk, I'm self taught on these topics so I just look at hotmath and online textbooks to learn calc :o
Wonder if someone can recommend a book
same with me :3 but i feel you can learn everything about partial fractions in less than 1 hour : http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/mathematics/18-01-single-variable-calculus-fall-2006/video-lectures/lecture-29-partial-fractions/ somewhere in the mid of video, the prof talks about `cover up` method, which is really a cool way to find the coefficients... have fun :)
@ganeshie8 thank you so much! I'll start studying with this vid right away >u< <3
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