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OpenStudy (anonymous):

help!! oxidation numbers!! AgNO3 + KI ==> AgI + KNO3 2PbS + 3O2 ==> 2PbO + 2SO2

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Do you have the rules in front of you now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah but I'm still really unclear on them

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Ok. Let's start with KI.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

K is in group 1, so its oxidation number is 1.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Make sense?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does that make I -1?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Sweet. Yup!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and am I correct saying NO3 is -1 so Ag is +1?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Yes, the charge on NO3 is -1, so the charge and oxidation number for Ag is +1. :)

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Can you find the rest of the oxidation numbers for AgNO3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there's more? @JoannaBlackwelder

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Yup, you just found the oxidation number for Ag. You still have N and O to find.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait which side are you talking about? so far I have: Ag: +1 NO3: -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh and K: +1 I: -1

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Those are the charges, but for oxidation numbers, each element gets its own oxidation number.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

KI is good. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhh ok so what is NO3 then?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Oxygen is always -2 (unless it is a peroxide, which it is not).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

So, the N has to be +5 for the NO3 ion to add to -1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why? what would ag be?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Ag is +1 because it is bonded to the NO3 ion which has a charge of -1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok I see where you got the +5 now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about the other side? How can I tell?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@JoannaBlackwelder

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Try the KNO3 first.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well is NO3 still -1?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

That is the charge of the ion, but not the oxidation number.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do I know if anything has changed then?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

O is still -2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

always? no matter which side of the reaction?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Unless it is a peroxide (which is almost never). :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

got it! ok so what else stays the same?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Hydrogen (H) has oxidation number +1 with nonmetals and –1 with metals. Fluorine (F) only has oxidation number, –1. Oxygen (O) has oxidation number -2, except in peroxides where it is –1. The alkali metals (Group 1) have 1 valence. This is lost to achieve noble gas configuration, and so alkali metals have oxidation number +1. The alkaline earth metals (Group 2) have 2 valence electrons, and so have oxidation number +2. Group 13 elements have 3 valence electrons, and so have oxidation number +3. Group 14 elements have 4 valence electrons. They tend to have oxidation number +4 with nonmetals and oxidation number –4 with metals and H. The pnictogens (Group 15) has 5 valence electrons. They gain electrons to achieve noble gas configuration, so they usually have oxidation number –3. The chalcogens (Group 16) have 6 valence electrons, and typically have oxidation number –2. The halogens (Group 17) have 7 valence electrons, and so have oxidation number –1. In the transition metals Ag has oxidation number +1, Zn and Cd have oxidation number +2, and Sc, Y and La have oxidation number +3. Groups 14 to 17 have several oxidation number when they form oxoacids.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh boy ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so since I is in the 17th group does it always have an oxidation number of -1?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

I know it is a lot, but it is honestly better to have a lot of rules than a little.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Almost always.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

true true

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Unless it is in a oxoacid (which is almost never) http://chemteacher.chemeddl.org/services/chemteacher/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=154

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha so many exceptions!

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Yeah, but they are pretty uncommon. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so in this case, I is still -1 and K is still +1

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Right. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

great. and N is -3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because N changed in the last one depending on what the other numbers were

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

How do you get that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because N is in the 15th group

OpenStudy (anonymous):

"The pnictogens (Group 15) has 5 valence electrons. They gain electrons to achieve noble gas configuration, so they usually have oxidation number –3."

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

They do usually have oxidation number -3, but the oxidation numbers also have to sum to 0 since the compound is neutral.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah that's what I thought which is yet another reason for me to be confused. Ok so how do I find it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to find Ag and N in the products

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Same way as last time.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

NO3 has charge of -1 and O has oxidation number of -2.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

So, N has to be +5 to make them sum to -1.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why -1?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Because NO3 has charge -1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why does the sum have to be -1?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Because the oxidation numbers have to sum to the charge of the molecule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm ok

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

How about Ag in the products?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it still has a +1 charge because I has a -1 charge and the charge of AgI is 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

yup :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

awesome! Ok let me try the last one on my own and I'll tell you what i get

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Sounds good. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2PbS + 3O2 ==> 2PbO + 2SO2 Pb: +4 S: -4 O: -2 ==> Pb: +4 O: -2 S: +4 O: -2

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Elements are always 0.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

The rules are for compounds.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh right so Pb: +4 S: -4 O: 0 ==> Pb: +4 O: -2 S: +4 O: -2

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

How did you gt Pb: +4, S:-4 in the reactants.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pb is in the 14th and it is paired with a nonmetal so it should be +4 right?

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Looks right to me :)

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

But in the products, Pb would be 2+ because O is -2.

OpenStudy (joannablackwelder):

Pb just tends to be 4+ but O is always 2-.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

gotcha! so it's Pb: +4 S: -4 O: 0 ==> Pb: +2 O: -2 S: +4 O: -2

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