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OpenStudy (anonymous):

A number of four different digits are formed by using the digits 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 in all possible ways without repetition. How many of them are greater than 3400?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5*4*5*4=400

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, here you are given with 4 digit number.. So, every digit you can fill up with 1,2,3,4,5,6,7.. But you want number greater than 3400, so: First place will be either : 3, 4,5,6,7 ( In 4 ways you can fill first place)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes i done that above

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You have done the case when first digit is starting with 3, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Getting my point?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

second in 4,5,6,7 so 4 ways third in 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, so 7 ways but repition is not allowed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so 5 ways fourth in 7 ways cuz of reptition 4 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are not getting me..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Tell me one thing 4001 > 3400 or not??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First place you can fill up with 3,4,5,6, and 7 no doubt about it five ways.. But you need to be careful at second place filling.. If you have chosen you first digit as 3, then you will get one case.. If you will chose your first digit as 4,5,6 and 7, then that will form another case.. Look here: Suppose you chose 3 as your first place, so second place only 4,5,6,7 can come.. But if you chose first digit as any one of 4,5,6,7 then your second digit can be 1,2,3,5,6 and 7 ( I chose 4 as first digit, so 4 will not include here). So this will be another case..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I simply mean if you chose 4,5,6,7 as your first digit, then you will get: 4*6*5*4 = 480. Getting me??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first digit in 5ways u wrote 4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I suggest you to break your question into small parts if you are getting confused.. Say I am breaking like this for you: As you need number greater than 3400: So 1> Fix 3 as your first digit and try to find all number greater than 3400. 2. Make any number starting with 4,5,6,7 (as this will automatically be greater than 3400)..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First digit in 4 ways, for one case. First digit in only 1 way for another case..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So, Fist case I am doing for you: I said, to fix 3 as your first digit and find numbers greater than 3400, you can surely say that number formed will be greater than 3400 but less than 4000 as I am fixing my first digit as 3.. Getting this one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*First case

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Are you busy right now or doing something else? I want your attention here.. The question you have posted is really a good one... :) Try to understand it, you are just there.. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes there.:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Getting the first case?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but if 3401,3402 has we have 5 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But I am considering it in one case no??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey wait.. I have categorized numbers between two cases.. 1. Numbers from 3400 to 3999 (this will consider your 3401, 3402) 2. Number above 4000

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Say if you fix 3 as your first digit, then you will all four digit number starting from 3?? Am I right here?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now if you have fix your first digit as 3, in how many ways you can fill first place?? Be careful while answering..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

First place with 5 ways?? You have set your first place with digit 3, then how can you change it with 4,5,6,or 7??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then second will be greater than or equal to 4 ->4,5,6,7 in 4 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Firstly tell me of first place.. Don't be fast... :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Wait, just take breathe fully for two minutes.. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1 ways sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes, see, taking breathe deeply helps your brain to work properly as it supplies proper supply of oxygen which now you are not getting.. :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then 1*4*5*4

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first place is 3 means 1 way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes first in 1 way. Second in 4 ways, (4,5,6,7) Look for third place more carefully..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

5 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay, third in 5 ways (Good) And 4th place in 4 ways, so you got total : 80

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now this is one case where you have taken 3 as your rigid first place.. Now move to another case waiting for use to be analyzed. Now tell me, if I use 4,5,6 and 7 as first digit, then all numbers will automatically be greater than 3400, right??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in second case 1st digit is 4 ways ,2nd in 6 and ,3rd in 5 ,th in 4 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now, here you can fill your first place as 4,5,6 and 7.. (don't consider 3 here as you have considered it in first case already) Now tell me how many ways you will get?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in second case 1st digit is 4 ways ,2nd in 6 and ,3rd in 5 ,th in 4 ways

OpenStudy (anonymous):

480+80=560

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@waterineyes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It must be right.. Sorry, Openstudy was not opening for me earlier.. :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think i am sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am sure too.. :) Yes you are right.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are welcome dear..:)

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