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OpenStudy (anonymous):

b. Assume a reaction takes place in a basic solution to form the given products: MnO4–(aq) + Cl–(aq) MnO2(s) + Cl2(g) (unbalanced)       i. Balance the given half-reactions for atoms and charge. (.5 point) MnO4– + H2O MnO2 + OH– Cl– Cl2       ii. Multiply to balance the charges in the reaction. (.5 point)       iii. Add the equations and simplify to get a balanced equation. (.5 point)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so here's what i think: 1. half-reactions: MnO2 --> MnO4- Cl2 --> Cl- 2. 2H2O + MnO2 --> MnO4- + 4H+ 3e- 2e- + Cl2 --> 2Cl- 3.8OH- + 2MnO2 + 3Cl2 --> 2MnO4- + 6Cl- + 4H2O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is this correct? thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@JFraser

OpenStudy (jfraser):

it will take me a few minutes to work it through myself, but it looks ok at first

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait no ii would be: 4H2O + 2MnO2 --> 2MnO4- + 8H+ + 6e- 6e- + 3Cl2 --> 6Cl-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no wait i messed this up hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1. 2H2O + MnO2 --> MnO4- + 4H+ 3e- 2e- + Cl2 --> 2Cl- 2. 4H2O + 2MnO2 --> 2MnO4- + 8H+ + 6e- 6e- + 3Cl2 --> 6Cl- 3. 8OH- + 2MnO2 + 3Cl2 --> 2MnO4- + 6Cl- + 4H2O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

since the half reactions in number one have to be balanced

OpenStudy (jfraser):

this set of half-reactions doesn't fit together. the electrons won't cancel since they're both on the same side

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh. i must've messed up.

OpenStudy (jfraser):

i'll start with the chlorine, since that's easier

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here's the exact question: b. Assume a reaction takes place in a basic solution to form the given products: MnO4–(aq) + Cl–(aq) MnO2(s) + Cl2(g) (unbalanced)       i. Balance the given half-reactions for atoms and charge. (.5 point)       ii. Multiply to balance the charges in the reaction. (.5 point)       iii. Add the equations and simplify to get a balanced equation. (.5 point)

OpenStudy (jfraser):

you start with \[Cl_2 \rightarrow Cl^{-1}\]balance the Cl's first:\[Cl_2 \rightarrow 2Cl^{-1}\]balance O's and H's, but there are none, so we skip to balancing charge\[2e^{-1} + Cl_2 \rightarrow Cl^{-1}\]

OpenStudy (jfraser):

ok, now that's different

OpenStudy (jfraser):

the first reaction had Cl2 --> Cl- now it's written Cl- --> Cl2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i thought it's 2e- + Cl2 --> 2Cl-

OpenStudy (jfraser):

the REDUCTION is written with the gain of electrons, but you have to use the reaction the direction the reaction tells you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i must've typed something wrong hold on

OpenStudy (jfraser):

use the half-reaction the way it's given, don't flip it backwards

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah i went backward

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i switched the reduction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea okay so i need to fix that

OpenStudy (jfraser):

\[Cl_2 \rightarrow 2Cl^{-1} + 2e^{-1}\]

OpenStudy (jfraser):

the other half-reaction is more complicated, so do it one step, by the instructions \[MnO_2 \rightarrow MnO4^{-1}\]

OpenStudy (jfraser):

balance atoms other than O and H: already done, so next step

OpenStudy (jfraser):

balance O atoms with water: \[2H_2O + MnO_2 \rightarrow MnO_4^{-1}\]

OpenStudy (jfraser):

balance H atoms with H+ \[2H_2O + MnO_2 \rightarrow MnO_4^{-1} + 4H^{+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hold on i think i understand

OpenStudy (jfraser):

if the solution were acidic, we'd be almost done, but the problem says the solution is BASIC

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is iii 2MnO4^- + 4H2O + 6Cl- --> 2MnO2 + 8OH- + 3Cl2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got it!!! i think i understand it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'll type out i and ii

OpenStudy (jfraser):

H+ ions don't float around in basic solutions, so we get rid of them by mixing in equal numbers of OH- to make water \[4OH^{-1} + 2H_2O + MnO_2 \rightarrow MnO_4^{-1} + (4H^{+1} + 4OH^{-1})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for i it would be MnO4^- + 4H+ --> MnO2 + 2H2O but MnO4^- + 2H2O --> MnO2 + 4OH- is the answer because it needs to be basic

OpenStudy (jfraser):

don't flip it around, use the half-reaction in the direction the problem tells you. See how you've flipped yours backwards from mine?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait, hold on i did it again huh

OpenStudy (jfraser):

yup, you did

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but i did that so it's for the acidic one and then you can fix it in the end so it becomes basic.

OpenStudy (jfraser):

look at the last one i wrote. adding hydroxides is how we fix a half-reaction so that it's basic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think I've got it from here. thanks

OpenStudy (jfraser):

let me know what you come up with, i have my answer ready

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the problem was that the half-reactions were already given

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i completely forgot to copy that

OpenStudy (jfraser):

the half-reactions will always be given, you have to put them together

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i mean my teacher solved i for us so anyways i understand

OpenStudy (jfraser):

\(4H_2O + 2MnO_2 + 10Cl^{-1} \rightarrow 2MnO_4^{-1} + 8OH^{-1} + 5Cl_2\)

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