Help.....calculus III
1) Show that the function F (X, Y) = ln (sqrt (x ^ 2 + y ^ 2)) satisfies the Laplace equation in two-dimensional ((& PartialD,) ^ (2) F) / (& PartialD, x ^ (2)) + ((& PartialD,) ^ (2) F) / (& PartialD; ^ y (2)) = 0
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@fabiomartins in which grade u are?
@hartnn
@phi
where are you stuck ? first find \(\Large \dfrac{\partial }{\partial x}(\ln \sqrt{x^2+y^2})\) means differentiate that treating y as constant what do u get ?
once done, differentiate the answer once more w.r.t x treating y as constant and you will get the first term " ((& PartialD,) ^ (2) F) / (& PartialD, x ^ (2))"
x/(x^2+y^2) ??????????????????
thats the first partial derivative, and its correct! :) go for one more derivative
yes, that is the first derivative. do it again
THEN THAT MY ANSWER IS CORRECT? WHAT DO I DO NOW?
differentiate \(\dfrac{x}{x^2+y^2}\) w.r.t x, treating y as constant, to get \(\dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2}\)
using quotient rule
our, now I can not :(
where are you getting stuck ? you know quotient rule right ?
\(\Large \dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(x)'-x(x^2+y^2)'}{(x^2+y^2 )^2} = ... \)
you could also use the product rule after writing it as x*(x^2+y^2)^(-1)
(x(x)^2+y(x)^2-x(x^2+y^2))/(x^2+y^2)^2 @hartnn
\((x^2+y^2)'\) means partial derivative of x^2+y^2 which will just be 2x
x'=1 \(\Large \dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(x)'-x(x^2+y^2)'}{(x^2+y^2 )^2} =\dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(1)-x(2x)}{(x^2+y^2 )^2}=...\)
=...?
(x(1)^2+y(1)^2-x(2*x))/(x^2+y^2)^2
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i don't understand what you have done...
you never used quotient rule ? if not try phi's method which uses product rule.
\((x^2+y^2)(1)=x^2+y^2\) and not \(x(1)^2+y(1)^2\)
\(\Large \dfrac{\partial ^2 F}{\partial x^2} =\dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(x)'-x(x^2+y^2)'}{(x^2+y^2 )^2} \\ \Large =\dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(1)-x(2x)}{(x^2+y^2 )^2}=\dfrac{y^2-x^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2}\) now similarly find \(\dfrac{\partial ^2 F}{\partial y^2}\)
and then add them, and you will be done
so now what do I do more? which equation should I solve? or over?
@hartnn
could you find \(\dfrac{\partial ^2 F}{\partial y^2}\) using same steps ?? what did you get ?
I can not make that step :(
why not ? which step are you stuck ?
please give us inputs on what you have tried or why you are not able to try ? just saying 'I cannot do' , then we won't be able to help u
can make the next step? hence why I try again ..
First, what did you get for d^2 F/dx^2 ?
d^2*F/dx^2
yes. I know you found \[ \frac{\partial F}{\partial x} = x (x^2+y^2)^{-1}\] what did you get for \[ \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2} \]
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this looks *almost* correct (x(1)^2+y(1)^2-x(2*x))/(x^2+y^2)^2 if you write it as (x^2+y^2-x(2*x))/(x^2+y^2)^2 that is correct simplify to (x^2+y^2-2x^2))/(x^2+y^2)^2 (-x^2 +y^2)/(x^2+y^2)^2
dF/dy is the same problem (with x and y swapped)
and d^2 F / dy^2 is also the same problem
but now I'll have to do more for to finalize this issue?
yes. so far you have d^2 F / dx^2 =(-x^2 +y^2)/(x^2+y^2)^2 you need to find d^2 F / dy^2 (which is *very* similar to finding d^2 F / dx^2 , which you know how to do)
I'm kinda confused, is the first step.
@phi
You are showing \[ \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial y^2} = 0 \] the partial derivative of F with respect to x means find the derivative of F but treat y as a constant. the partial derivative of F with respect to y means find the derivative of F but treat x as a constant.
you need to find the first derivative of F with respect to y (while treating x as a constant) can you find a derivative?
I'm kinda confused, you can finish this question for me? and then explain to me step by step? but does it all unless I get a little lost.
@phi
If you don't know how to take a derivative, you should not be studying Calculus III Here is a video on partial derivatives. http://www.khanacademy.org/math/multivariable-calculus/partial_derivatives_topic/partial_derivatives/v/partial-derivatives
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