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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Help.....calculus III

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1) Show that the function F (X, Y) = ln (sqrt (x ^ 2 + y ^ 2)) satisfies the Laplace equation in two-dimensional   ((& PartialD,) ^ (2) F) / (& PartialD, x ^ (2)) + ((& PartialD,) ^ (2) F) / (& PartialD; ^ y (2)) = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@ganeshie8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@paki

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@UnkleRhaukus

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@nincompoop

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@matricked

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@fabiomartins in which grade u are?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi

hartnn (hartnn):

where are you stuck ? first find \(\Large \dfrac{\partial }{\partial x}(\ln \sqrt{x^2+y^2})\) means differentiate that treating y as constant what do u get ?

hartnn (hartnn):

once done, differentiate the answer once more w.r.t x treating y as constant and you will get the first term " ((& PartialD,) ^ (2) F) / (& PartialD, x ^ (2))"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x/(x^2+y^2) ??????????????????

hartnn (hartnn):

thats the first partial derivative, and its correct! :) go for one more derivative

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, that is the first derivative. do it again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THEN THAT MY ANSWER IS CORRECT? WHAT DO I DO NOW?

hartnn (hartnn):

differentiate \(\dfrac{x}{x^2+y^2}\) w.r.t x, treating y as constant, to get \(\dfrac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2}\)

hartnn (hartnn):

using quotient rule

OpenStudy (anonymous):

our, now I can not :(

hartnn (hartnn):

where are you getting stuck ? you know quotient rule right ?

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\Large \dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(x)'-x(x^2+y^2)'}{(x^2+y^2 )^2} = ... \)

OpenStudy (phi):

you could also use the product rule after writing it as x*(x^2+y^2)^(-1)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x(x)^2+y(x)^2-x(x^2+y^2))/(x^2+y^2)^2 @hartnn

hartnn (hartnn):

\((x^2+y^2)'\) means partial derivative of x^2+y^2 which will just be 2x

hartnn (hartnn):

x'=1 \(\Large \dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(x)'-x(x^2+y^2)'}{(x^2+y^2 )^2} =\dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(1)-x(2x)}{(x^2+y^2 )^2}=...\)

hartnn (hartnn):

=...?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(x(1)^2+y(1)^2-x(2*x))/(x^2+y^2)^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

hartnn (hartnn):

i don't understand what you have done...

hartnn (hartnn):

you never used quotient rule ? if not try phi's method which uses product rule.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hartnn (hartnn):

\((x^2+y^2)(1)=x^2+y^2\) and not \(x(1)^2+y(1)^2\)

hartnn (hartnn):

\(\Large \dfrac{\partial ^2 F}{\partial x^2} =\dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(x)'-x(x^2+y^2)'}{(x^2+y^2 )^2} \\ \Large =\dfrac{(x^2+y^2)(1)-x(2x)}{(x^2+y^2 )^2}=\dfrac{y^2-x^2}{(x^2+y^2)^2}\) now similarly find \(\dfrac{\partial ^2 F}{\partial y^2}\)

hartnn (hartnn):

and then add them, and you will be done

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so now what do I do more? which equation should I solve? or over?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hartnn

hartnn (hartnn):

could you find \(\dfrac{\partial ^2 F}{\partial y^2}\) using same steps ?? what did you get ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can not make that step :(

hartnn (hartnn):

why not ? which step are you stuck ?

hartnn (hartnn):

please give us inputs on what you have tried or why you are not able to try ? just saying 'I cannot do' , then we won't be able to help u

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can make the next step? hence why I try again ..

OpenStudy (phi):

First, what did you get for d^2 F/dx^2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d^2*F/dx^2

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. I know you found \[ \frac{\partial F}{\partial x} = x (x^2+y^2)^{-1}\] what did you get for \[ \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

???

OpenStudy (phi):

this looks *almost* correct (x(1)^2+y(1)^2-x(2*x))/(x^2+y^2)^2 if you write it as (x^2+y^2-x(2*x))/(x^2+y^2)^2 that is correct simplify to (x^2+y^2-2x^2))/(x^2+y^2)^2 (-x^2 +y^2)/(x^2+y^2)^2

OpenStudy (phi):

dF/dy is the same problem (with x and y swapped)

OpenStudy (phi):

and d^2 F / dy^2 is also the same problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but now I'll have to do more for to finalize this issue?

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. so far you have d^2 F / dx^2 =(-x^2 +y^2)/(x^2+y^2)^2 you need to find d^2 F / dy^2 (which is *very* similar to finding d^2 F / dx^2 , which you know how to do)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm kinda confused, is the first step.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi

OpenStudy (phi):

You are showing \[ \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial x^2} + \frac{\partial^2 F}{\partial y^2} = 0 \] the partial derivative of F with respect to x means find the derivative of F but treat y as a constant. the partial derivative of F with respect to y means find the derivative of F but treat x as a constant.

OpenStudy (phi):

you need to find the first derivative of F with respect to y (while treating x as a constant) can you find a derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm kinda confused, you can finish this question for me? and then explain to me step by step? but does it all unless I get a little lost.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@phi

OpenStudy (phi):

If you don't know how to take a derivative, you should not be studying Calculus III Here is a video on partial derivatives. http://www.khanacademy.org/math/multivariable-calculus/partial_derivatives_topic/partial_derivatives/v/partial-derivatives

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