Please explain, i am getting smaller area
so 100 x 130 = 13000
115 x 115 = 13225
im not sure what the secret rule is here but, actually that was a guess.
its correct ...
given the sum of the numbers the product is maximum if the numbers are individully half of the sum...
i formed an inequality but got less...i think if i change the inequality sign i will get more
11 x 9 = 99 10 x 10 = 100 same perimeter again
ya
interesting though
so you are using trial and error?
no
i got the 115, by subtracting 15 from 130 and adding it to 100
can be proved using calculus...
(100+130)/2
ya the average
make a new rectangle that is closer to a square in shape
it cant be...
just took the perimeter of 230 2piR = 230 230/2pi = r A=piR^2 = 1344.86
hmmm....this is interesting ...so you used the average?
ya thats the best way to do it
turn it into a square
ok...hold that thought. let me give you a similar question, with a little twist though
here it is
60 x 105 = 6300 330 = perimeter
uh..you should just form an equation for perimeter with lets say x and y...then form an inequality for area...that works for both instances
115 x 50 = 5750
in this case i just made it less like a square
shaved a 10 off of 60 added it to 105
hmm.... i see how you did it now
but there must be a formula to it
wait a ^(#)^(#ing minute here
1 x 164
is as small as you can get it with the same perimeter 330
you could probably come up with an equation for it but its just arithmetic really.
lol ... i wouldnt have guessed that
yeah...i guess it is
it is not trivial to show that if you hold the perimeter constant, that the shape that gives the max area is a square, and the shape that gives min area is a rectangle that is *almost* a thin line. (very very long and very short height)
would it reach a point where one side is so small that the area actually becomes bigger?
if we let x+y= P (where P stands for ½ of the perimeter) then y= P-x and area A= x*y= x(P-x) A= -x^2 + xP do you know how to "complete the square" ? Write this as \[ A= - ( x^2 - xP + \frac{P^2}{4} - \frac{P^2}{4} ) \] (I factored out a minus sign. I added and subtracted P^2/4 (so nothing changes) But we now have a perfect square \[ A= -\left ( \left (x - \frac{P}{2} \right)^2- \frac{P^2}{4} \right) \] distribute the minus sign: \[ A= \frac{P^2}{4} - \left (x - \frac{P}{2} \right)^2\] now we notice that the area is p^2/4 minus a number (the messy stuff squared) that squared number is *never* negative. It is either 0 or bigger. if it is 0, then the area will be the biggest possible. In other words, the biggest area is when \[ \left (x - \frac{P}{2} \right)^2 = 0 \\ x-\frac{P}{2} =0 \\ x= \frac{P}{2} \] and using y= P-x, when y= \(\frac{P}{2}\) i.e. when x=y= \(\frac{P}{2}\) , a square
@cece1902
sorry what is this about
phi = god
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