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OpenStudy (dls):

Successive differentiation!

OpenStudy (dls):

If \(\LARGE p^2=a^2 \cos^2 \theta+b^2 \sin^2 \theta\) Show that : \[\LARGE p + \frac{d^2p}{d \theta^2}= \frac{a^2b^2}{p^3}\]

OpenStudy (dls):

I found the first derivative. \[\Large 2p \frac{dp}{d \theta}= -2a^2 \cos \theta \sin \theta+2 b ^2 \sin \theta \cos \theta\]

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\Large p \frac{dp}{d \theta}=\sin \theta \cos \theta(b^2-a^2)\]

OpenStudy (dls):

now what?

OpenStudy (rational):

use double angle identity so that it becomes cos(2theta) when u differentiate again

OpenStudy (dls):

yeah I tried that but it almost gives the same result.

OpenStudy (dls):

Lets differentiate it again. \[\Large (\frac{dp}{d \theta})^2 + p \frac{d^2p}{d \theta^2}=(b^2-a^2)(\cos^2 \theta-\sin^2 \theta)\]

OpenStudy (dls):

We can put it as cos 2 theta but still not proceed-able further.

hartnn (hartnn):

replace dp/dtheta from your 3rd comment

OpenStudy (dls):

upon p?

hartnn (hartnn):

s^2c^2 /p^2 (b^2-a^2)^2 see whether you can use, s^2+c^2=1

hartnn (hartnn):

yes, divided by p

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\Large (\frac{\sin \theta \cos \theta(b^2-a^2)}{p})^2 + p \frac{d^2p}{d \theta^2}=(b^2-a^2)(\cos^2 \theta-\sin^2 \theta)\]

hartnn (hartnn):

hmm..that just complicated it...also using p^2 from the question, would not help much

OpenStudy (dls):

true!

hartnn (hartnn):

(b^2-a^2)(c^2-s^2) can be simplified

hartnn (hartnn):

and p^2 term will come in there...

OpenStudy (dls):

what do you mean :O

hartnn (hartnn):

=p^2+b^2c^2+a^2s^2

OpenStudy (dls):

oh I see..so now?

hartnn (hartnn):

i am just throwing random ideas at you :P

OpenStudy (dls):

.......

hartnn (hartnn):

seems much like an algebraic work...isolate d^2p/dtheta^2 and work on other side

OpenStudy (dls):

too scared to deal with all those big terms :P

OpenStudy (dls):

maybe some step that simplifies everything?

OpenStudy (dls):

I don't get it.......

OpenStudy (rational):

\[\large\begin{align}\\ p^2 &= a^2\cos^2\theta + b^2\sin^2\theta = \frac{1}{2}[a^2+b^2 -(b^2-a^2)\cos2\theta] ~~~\color{Red}{\star}\\~\\ 2pp' &= (b^2-a^2)\sin 2\theta \\~\\ p'^2+pp'' &= (b^2-a^2)\cos 2\theta \\~\\ &=a^2+b^2-2p^2~~~ \color{gray}{(~from ~} \color{Red}{\star}~\color{gray}{)} \\~\\ \end{align}\]

OpenStudy (rational):

\[\begin{align}\\ p'^2 + pp'' &= a^2+b^2-2p^2 \\~\\ p(p+p'') &= a^2 + b^2 - p^2 - p'^2 \\~\\ &=a^2\sin^2\theta + b^2\cos^2\theta - p'^2 \\~\\ &=a^2\sin^2\theta + b^2\cos^2\theta - \dfrac{(b^2-a^2)^2\sin^22\theta}{4p^2} \\~\\ &= \dfrac{4p^2(a^2\sin^2\theta + b^2\cos^2\theta) -(b^2-a^2)^2\sin^22\theta}{4p^2} \\~\\ &= \dfrac{4( a^2\cos^2\theta + b^2\sin^2\theta )(a^2\sin^2\theta + b^2\cos^2\theta) -(b^2-a^2)\sin^22\theta}{4p^2} \\~\\ &= \dfrac{4a^2b^2(\sin^4\theta + \cos^4\theta)+ (a^2+b^2)\sin^22\theta-(b^2-a^2)^2\sin^22\theta}{4p^2} \\~\\ &= \dfrac{4a^2b^2(\sin^4\theta + \cos^4\theta)+2a^2b^2\sin^22\theta}{4p^2} \\~\\ &= \dfrac{4a^2b^2(\sin^2\theta + \cos^2\theta)^2}{4p^2} \\~\\ &= \dfrac{a^2b^2}{p^2} \\~\\ \end{align}\]

OpenStudy (rational):

that looks lengthy >.<

OpenStudy (dls):

i'll just..quit this question :P

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