Use the graph of y=f(1/x) to find lim (x->infinity) f(x) and lim (x->negative infinity) f(x) f(x)=xe^x
Calculus is a wonderful thing.. T_T
giv meh a sec ok :)
Thanks a lot :D
its a pleasure :)
we need the graph
wow nm im blind...
There is no graph
ohhhh so u want a graph calculator
That they give us
No, what I mean is that I don't really understand what they are asking me to do
it asks you to use the graph of \(f(\frac{1}{x})=(\frac{1}{x})e^{\frac{1}{x}}\)
I dont understand how the graph of f(1/x) will help me find the other two limits
how does tha graph look like
do they giv u a pic of tha graph
They don't show us. They want us to use a graphing calculator to find it. I can do that, I just don't understand what they want us to do with it
I will take a picture of it
hold on a min I think I have a graph calculater 2 do tha job :)
let meh check first tho
This is what the problem looks like: #49
This may help. I used geogebra to graph.
I appreciate it, but it doesn't really help much. There's only one function visible there. My main question is what they want me to do with the graph of f(1/x) to help me find the two limits
You start with f(x) = x*e^x
then you replace every copy of x with 1/x to get f(1/x) = (1/x)*e^(1/x)
which is g(x) in that graph posted
OH MY GOD, I AM SO STUPID xD
I realized that just before I saw what you typed LOL
Ok, so I have another question
http://www.freemathhelp.com/factoring-calculator.php this page has calculus calculator on it :)
hope it helps
Why does the limit of f(x) as x approaches infinity equal the limit of f(1/x) as x approaches 0 from the right side? http://www.slader.com/textbook/9780132014083-calculus-graphical-numerical-algebraic-3rd-edition/76/exercises/49/
giv meh a sec
Thanks!!
look at the graph of f(x) and g(x) what is the limit as x approaches infinity for f(x)?
As x approaches infinity, the limit is infinity
The basis of one-sided limits is that when a function jumps suddenly from one value to another, it often is not possible to describe the function's behavior with a single limit
if that doesn't help here is a website http://www.sagemath.org/calctut/onesided.html
Yeah but my question is why does the limit of the one function equal the limit of the other one What I mean is where it says based on the example above on this site http://www.slader.com/textbook/9780132014083-calculus-graphical-numerical-algebraic-3rd-edition/76/exercises/49/
*based on the graph above
When it says the two limits of f(x) equal limits of f(1/x)
OH WAIT
as x approaches infinity, x*e^x gets extremely large so f(x) approaches infinity as x approaches 0 from the right, (1/x)*e^(1/x) gets larger and larger, effectively approaching infinity So that's why \[\Large \lim_{x \to \infty}(f(x)) = \lim_{x \to 0^{+}}(g(x)) = \infty\]
Yes! That is exactly what I was going to say!! Thank you so much!!
I miss precalc and trig xD
you're welcome
I don't know this stuff sooo :/ srry bout takin u around tha block @TheWaffleMan149 :/
Nah, don't worry! I really appreciate the help!
its a pleasure :) ig :/ lol
do I still get a waffle 4 hard wrk lol
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Whoops
soooo can I have 1 pls *~*
Actually, i have one more question
One more question actually. Why does it only say limc(x) as x approaches negative infinity equal f(1/x) as x approaches 0 from the left? Doesn't f(1/x) also approach 0 when x approaches infinity?
*limf(x)
ummmm giv meh a sec
Note that some functions, such as f(x) = x, do not tend to a nite value as x becomes very large, but instead grow to innity. Other functions, such as 1 x2 , become very large even for nite values of x. So we will dene innite limits to cover those cases:
*define infinite limits
does that help @TheWaffleMan149
I appreciate the effort, but not really
im sooooo srry idk nothing bout calculus :/ but I think ik some1 that does let meh get him 4 u
Don't worry about it! I appreciate you trying to help me!!!
r u sure u don't want meh 2 get another person 2 help u @TheWaffleMan149 :(
So you're asking why \[\Large \lim_{x \to -\infty}(f(x)) = \lim_{x \to 0^{-}}(g(x))\] is true?
Sorta. I know that is true, but I want to know why it doesn't also equal lim(g(x)) when x approaches infinity as well. On the graph it approaches the x axis in two places, so that is why I am confused that this only accounts for when it approaches 0 from the left
If that makes sense at all
As x approaches negative infinity, f(x) approaches 0 (you see this when you graph f(x) = x*e^x) As x approaches 0 from the left, g(x) approaches 0. This is shown in that graph I posted above. So that shows why \[\Large \lim_{x \to -\infty}(f(x)) = \lim_{x \to 0^{-}}(g(x))\] is true. They are both equal to 0.
And before, you saw how as x approached infinity, g(x) approached zero so that means we have 3 different limits equal to 0
But why isn't that included in the answer? They only address the one approaching 0 from the left
It only says that limf(x) as x approaches infinity is equal to limf(1/x) as x approaches 0 from the left. It says nothing about both of those being equal to limc(1/x) as x approaches infinity
Sorry I keep reiterating this, I just have a hard time being able to tell who understands what I am saying when it is online
Is it because you only need to know that one of g(x)'s limits equal 0 to know that limf(x) as x approaches negative infinity equals 0?
"It only says that limf(x) as x approaches infinity is equal to limf(1/x) as x approaches 0 from the left." that is false \[\Large \lim_{x \to \infty}(f(x)) =\infty\] while \[\Large \lim_{x \to 0^{-}} \left(f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\right) = 0\] So, \[\Large \lim_{x \to \infty}(f(x)) \neq \lim_{x \to 0^{-}} \left(f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\right)\]
where does it say that? In the book? or solutions manual?
This website that I am getting this from has the answers to my book.
My book lists the answers, the website gives a little bit of info on how to find them
It's not a true or false question
The section of the website where it says "Based on the graph above" is what is confusing me. The second line of it
So you're not sure about the notation on the second line?
No, my confusion is that g(x) approaches 0 in two places, so why does the second line only acknowledge when it approaches it from the left side of 0. It also approaches it when x approaches infinity. Does that make any sense?
I see. Well on the second line when they have 0^{-}, they mean "approach 0 from the left" So this is saying that as you approach x = 0 from the left, g(x) = f(1/x) is approaching 0. As to why they don't mention the limit \[\Large \lim_{x \to \infty} \left(f\left(\frac{1}{x}\right)\right) = 0\] I'm not sure
Actually g(x) approaches 0 in three places: as x approaches positive infinity, negative infinity and 0 from the left.
Yeah. Thats my big question. Why do they only mention the 0 front the left
Do you think that is is because they only need one to prove that it does approach 0 and is therefore equal to lim f(x) when x approaches infinity?
Ok I reread the solution that you linked and I see what they want
They provide the graph of f(1/x) and you use this to find limits for f(x) (x approaching positive and negative infinity)
as x approaches 0 from the right, f(1/x) approaches infinity When you approach 0 from the right on 1/x, this means 1/x is approaching positive infinity (x is on the right side of 0, so it's positive, 1/x is positive) So that's where they are getting that first line under where it says "based on the graph above"
So that answers the first part of the question (which they show under the "result" portion)
I understand that one. Its the second part that I don't understand. I don't understand why they ignored the other two places where the limit is 0
I understand why they have what they do. My only confusion is why they left those out
when x approaches 0 from the left, f(1/x) is approaching 0 x is now negative, so 1/x is growing to negative infinity therefore saying "x --> 0^{-}" is the same as "1/x ---> -infinity" so that's how they got that second line
they are true facts, but they aren't needed to answer the original question "Use the graph of y=f(1/x) to find lim (x->infinity) f(x) and lim (x->negative infinity) f(x) f(x)=xe^x"
we only care about what they are originally asking, which are the limits for f(x) x is approaching positive infinity x is approaching negative infinity
So like I said earlier, it is just because they only need one of the 3 to prove that it has a limit at 0?
I'm not sure how you can use the others, but yes, that is the key needed to prove the second line
Ok. Thank you so much for the help!! I really, really appreciate it :D
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